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comment by Schwartz on May 05, 2003 01:10 pm ET
re: Moving Day!
So fast the airbag at my desk went off....Whew!
:)
It's a great day in the world of LC...
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comment by SonOfSin on May 05, 2003 01:04 pm ET
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comment by K-ZS-M on May 05, 2003 01:03 pm ET
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comment by SonOfSin on May 05, 2003 01:03 pm ET
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comment by NathanS on May 05, 2003 11:59 am ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Hehehe it was a bug, cuz it was removed and some were banned. Or Maybe it was pretty nice to that to stay so in 1 month WhiteHand and others could have at least and i think is few 200m+, oh yes thats nice for every1 else who plays hard and feels good with their items.
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comment by NoLuCK on May 05, 2003 11:17 am ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Symantics and word games are the mask you use to hide your nonsense. Your idealism is what is contridicting me, ignore your head, be unbiased by your ego. I will try to make it simple, avoid half truths, opinions, sarcasm, and assumptions.
When I used the term "common sense" I did not mean as you said "common unsense." I admitted that it was a bad term before I used it, it is based on opinion, knowing you would attack that statement. You read what I said, but you interpretted it to mean the opposite of what you read.
On to the dupe, and be very specific and very clear on where your view differs when you reply to me. Your example of silver arrows works great. I obviously am unable to grasp this seemingly simple concept and need you to fix my broken sense of ethical duty.
You buy 100 adena worth of arrows and you get arrows that are worth 100 adena, as intended. Agreed?
You go to hunt, killing monsters, using arrows, getting adena from the monsters. Agreed?
You buy 100 adena of arrows and got arrows worth 100,000,000 adena. This is not intended. Agreed?
You still made a transaction, so the trade worked. Agreed?
Just because something works does not mean it works correctly. Agreed?
You must agree with those facts, if you do not I am wasting my time. Just because something was intentionally programmed does not mean that it will work as intended. Stop me when im wrong..
If code that was intended to work correctly, yet does not function properly, is not a bug, what is it? If this is not a bug, then it must work as intended, and there is no reason to fix it. However, the reasons to fix this bug are numerous.
If you find a flaw in my judgement, explain it to me. Can you define non-bug? How is it different from a bug?
Adena is currency, it is finite and meant to be stable. Agree?
People exploiting the bug experience the infinate adena phemonemnum. Agree?
To people playing fairly, 100 adena is still 100 adena. Agree?
"What is going on in your head?" is only reason I persue this any further; Curiosity.
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comment by Weathersmurf on May 05, 2003 09:57 am ET
re: Public Service Announcement
No, 'twas in response to "I want to say use common sense, although I am not sure that you believe in knowledge or wisdom. Hell, I will still give it a shot. Use common sense!" When you keep contradicting yourself, which am I supposed to believe? So I just answer on a paragraph-by-paragraph basis.
When you use silver arrows (5 for 1a) to hunt and get much more money, are you duping adena? You can infinitely make a profit this way! Just buy a few thousand arrows, and make 40k adena per hour!
Subjective "truths" are opinions. Usualy "truth" refers to objective truth (aka fact). If you keep deluding yourself that something intentional that was programmed correctly is a "bug" and many others agree with you, that doesn't make you right.
One is immature until one is mature, and one is mature when one is no longer immature...by definition. It's subjective and a quite arbitrary judgement anyway =P "An open mind is not an empty one." No, you're the one refusing to reason, just parroting "But it's a bug!" over and over despite being shown repeatedly that it is not.
I'm not ignoring you; you're just denying the truth =P It'll get somewhere, maybe not where your prejudices want you to go though heh. Morals and ethics, however, have nothing to do with this discussion. We are discussing whether it was against the rules or not, not whether it's ethical or not.
Oh, well, that deserves a "I know you are but what am I?" IMO.
I think you're bored. Me, too. Let's be friends now.
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comment by FrozenYak on May 05, 2003 09:51 am ET
re: LoA Dragon Armor - 10% Fire Resistance
it may just be a little glitch, mention it on the loa boards
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comment by NoLuCK on May 05, 2003 09:32 am ET
re: Public Service Announcement
O boy, now that I have started I cannot shut up. I apoligize for this, however it must be said.
The adena dupe is a dupe. A finite value cannot be equal to infinity. In normal circumstances 100 adena = 100 adena, and 100a + 10a = 100a + 10a. The reason we use adena as currency is that it is finite, when currency is no longer finite it has no value. What happens when 100a != 100a or in this case 100 adena = 1 < x adena < infinity? Bad things.
It does not matter that 100 adena = 110 adena, or that 110 adena = 121 adena. 100 = 110 = 121 .. = infinity. This is a very obvious flaw, this is a dupe, in software this is a bug. Do you dispute this?
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comment by NoLuCK on May 05, 2003 08:42 am ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Smurf,
You said, "So you're saying common sense dictates they changed the prat price by accident, then unintentionally told us they intentionally changed the prat price? Well, I'm glad I don't have common sense" in responce to what I said, "I agree the price change was done on purpose. The same with the notice about the price change."
Why in the world do you refuse to read my post? Is your head really so high in the sky that you cannot understand me?
THE PRICE CHANGE WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT! <-- read that, please.
You said, "It wasn't a dupe." It clearly was a dupe. They were turning 100 adena into 110 adena time and time again. How much more dupe can you get?
THE PRICE CHANGE WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT!! <-- In case you missed it the first time.
You are a hypocrit. You quote Ghandi, "If you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." and it seems you interpret it to mean a person should make an imaginary truth so that he is the minority. Ghandi is saying that even if nobody believes you, you can rely on the truth because it is true (I do believe he is referring to the universal truth, God).
You say you are "an immature, honest, open-minded, reasonable person." I would agree only that you are honest. You are not immature, you are not mature, but you are somewhere in the middle. You are only open-minded when your mind is made up to be open (Ahh yes, it is a bit cryptic). You are not reasonable, as a reasonable person will respond to reason, and you have proved to me that you are ignorant of all reason.
THE PRICE CHANGE WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT!!! <-- Third times a charm?
If you respond to me do not linger on my harsh analysis of you. You are unable able to change my mind as to your character, it is only through your actions can you be defined. I do, however, expect you to tell me that I am wrong if you believe it is so. An honest person would respond in that manner.
We are at a stand-off. I cannot continue to iterate the same points in responce to your ignoring me. Debating morals, ethics, or Lineage with you will go no where, as you only believe in what you think is true; and this belief system leaves no room for other people's thoughts. Your idealogy has become your brick wall. I do not enjoy talking to walls, as they do not listen, they only keep people out.
If you truely believe that the cheaters did not cheat, then you believe it is true. Belief is not truth, only truth is true. Believe in the truth, do not believe in beliefs. How can a seeker of truth find a path to the truth when she refuses to follow any path other than her own, the path of ignorance?
Ahh, my ignorance is proven in this post as well. I seem to have refused to give up a conversation I cannot win. Perhaps I can accept a gracious defeat knowing that my arguement has the power of truth, not deception or imagination. Then again I have caught myself talking out loud again, nobody is here, only this brick wall..
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