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comment by BigPope on April 30, 2003 10:51 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Bravehearts. You obviously wern't smart enough to know when to stop before you would get caught.
Protocol I could say I never commented on this issue but hell that isn't true. They have already expoilted a bug and cheated. Why should anyone believe when they said they stoped after 1 hour. I sure as hell dont believe them. I myself like to think of them leaving in a bug as a way to get rid of the stupid players in the game. Then again, we dont know if NC-Austin knew it was a bug, I only said that Korea knew of it.
We all know that other pledges have used cheats like this with oranges and oren. So why arn't they all banned? They did make a few extra million a lineage day, But they didn't make it so outstanding that it just screamed to ncsoft that something is wrong.
Just because its NC's fault not to fix the bug right away. Doesn't make it right to exploit it. I would like to point you to post #55, read that, it already explains this. Just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should do it. And they did know what they were doing was exploiting a bug, I dont believe that they are stupid enough to not believe that.
I just wish that people that played lineage had average intelligence, and not a IQ of 35 like it seems most of them have.
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comment by TheCollector on April 30, 2003 10:51 pm ET
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Anime what you describe is different. maybe if 2hs sold in a store for 500a (what they actually used to be worth at one time) and you bought 1000 of them (and stored all that somehow, well... in beta you could have as many accts as you wanted i suppose ^^) knowing that you would be able to sell them later, that would be a little closer to this story, even though that scenario is still way off.
this was how the exploit worked: an n-prat sells in a non-pandora store for 100a. you can sell an n-prat to pandora for 100a. now a castle owner (mayor too?) goes and buys as many n-prat as they can hold (and that is alot), uses a btele/whatever to go to pandora, and sells them all. the result is 1)the buyer loses 1 btele (or 1 ntele if they have rotc). 2) whoever collects the taxes is rich as hell.
NC's fault? HELL YES! first of all, why in the heck did they increase the price of n-prat at pandora? what possibly were NC tryign to accomplish with such a thing? ppl should know by now that making prices different provides oppertunity for abuse.
as for the whole finger pointing between alliances, for god's sake grow up. i wont even get into the finger pointing its just not worth the energy anymore. at least nc is showing signs of security, too bad they do it selectively and not consistantly.
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comment by amer on April 30, 2003 10:51 pm ET
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Anime:
NC doesn't care about "really all you've done NC is bann the most influencal players in Lineage". If they didn't ban them, then people would say "how come famous players get to commit crimes and we cannot?"
Bravehearts:
The difference between prat bug and OJ bug is prat bug people got caught :( In a perfect world, everyone gets caught and there are no bugs, but we live in an imperfect world and sometimes unfair decisions are made.
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comment by NoLuCK on April 30, 2003 10:49 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Anime,
Please scold the players not NC. These players banned themselves.
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comment by NoLuCK on April 30, 2003 10:48 pm ET
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Why do you think that people are so helpless. You determine your own fate. These people were banned for what they did, not who let them do it! The whole idea of there being a bug is IRRELEVANT. There are always bugs - but these bugs are not a problem if it is not for the people who exploit them.
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comment by Anime on April 30, 2003 10:41 pm ET
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really all you've done NC is bann the most influencal players in Lineage
These people were rolemodels for some...
Friends with many...
Enemies with many...
they effect the whole lineage community if you are gunna bann them you can expect many others players to quit also...
These people are what makes the server fun... they produce wars and rivalries that have recently made dep server fun again.. now that many of the strong people are gone Dep server is back to how it was before... BORING...
i can see that in a few months dep will be around maybe 200people now once they see that wars/seige/fights just arent as fun without these rivals....
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comment by Mackdown on April 30, 2003 10:40 pm ET
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oh yea, NC telling everyone about it is stupid, but they can't really ban themselves!!!!!! They should do what everyone does when they make a mistake......
"DOH!"
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comment by Mackdown on April 30, 2003 10:37 pm ET
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Amer I understand that, but thats because someone is searching my house after learning that I will not be there. To apply that to this situation, it would be like if NC said they were updating prices on certain things and then someone went out to look for what they were changing. In this special case though, NC told everyone exactly where to look and posted it on their website. They wonder why someone would try to benefit from it? It's human nature!!!!!!
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comment by Protocol on April 30, 2003 10:36 pm ET
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-BigPope
"NC knew about it the problem. They labeled it a bug over a month ago in korea and fixed it there."
you said it yourself it was known for so long. So how come none of us were informed? If it was a problem, then it MUST have been exploited sumwhere right? So why couldn't they warn everyone on US SERVER before they put it in our game, instead of letting them figure it out ourselves and punish them? Why did they even bother to put it in if they KNEW the potential damage it can cause to others accounts? NC COULD have avoided this problem easily when they first put in this update, but its because of NC's staff that they don't and didn't that lead to this slaughter of good people.
BigPope i think u should get all facts straightend. I pretty sure it wasn't 500m they made if they STOPED after 1hr of doing it. This "exploit" really didn't make much and WASN'T worth the time, thats why they STOPED.
Think about it, if it made 500m in 1hr (the duration of the time they did around) why not do it all night and make +8-9ac sets? they could've easily bought and blown every single item being sold on chat with that kinda money in that short period of time.
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comment by Bravehearts on April 30, 2003 10:35 pm ET
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How is this a "Bug" when you guys posted it on the boards and tested it
>already and put it in live servers. I also don't see the reason of boosting
>up pandoras remove curse scroll prices will change anything when i don't
>think no one buys from there other than newlevel players. Some ppl bought
>oranges from the store and sold them to Oren Store when oren first came out
>and never got a warning or a Ban for it, and this was not an update that
>you guys pointed out. Therefore the oranges that were bought and sold was a
>"Bug". I have helped you guys report bugs such as "Bug in Bapho Room
>[Incident: 030324-000052]" which is a bug.
I never got a warning or suspended before as long as i remember. I don't
think a permanently ban should take place because you guys posted it up on
the website that prices changed and you can't blame us for being smart and
pointing out this selling remove curse scrolls to pandora as a bug. Also
there are "roll backs" for the server because this was recent. I say roll
back because "you guys" rolled back test server when this thing kinda happen
too but with the green potion and "you guys" roll it back when it's a
TESTING server.
and this is there reply:I'm sorry, but this decision is final. -_-;
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