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comment by Brutus on April 30, 2003 11:22 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
400k was made from this and once they found out it effected the castle income they stopped, and if NC checked the logg's like they said they did they would of noticed the people told the other people that were doign it also to stop.
dep is garbage now i will cancel my accounts~ all my friends will do the same.
not like it will do alot but meh--
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comment by Raistleen on April 30, 2003 11:17 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
hmmm, i have been off-lineage for a while now, and so i don't know this info first hand, maybe i'm off shot, but in my mind are some thoughts floating around:
- If the so-called exploit was there and nc passed it from test to live, it's supposed to be safe. Next time they'll ban people for using nature touch+b2s and winning lots of adena by not using pots...
- It seems to me that this whole affair is just like the "som quest going to be shafted" it was announced and people started hundreds of mages and did the quest just to have a few soms and sell them at higher prices when the som quest was shafted. Just a clever use of priviledged(not so) knowledge.
- Is it fair? well, i never found fair blaming someone else for your own mistakes, but people do it all the time, untill nobody wants to have bussiness with them.
I really hope nc backpedals and temp-bans thoose perm-bans, just for their own dignity as a support company. Anyways, i really really hope that lineage keeps up at least until i can return to game after the end of course :)
c'ya all!
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comment by Protocol on April 30, 2003 11:12 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
"I myself like to think of them leaving in a bug as a way to get rid of the stupid players in the game."
lol if that was true there wouldn't be any lineage, everyone in this game would be too greedy. You would probably fall for it too, practically everyone would. With the economics of the game the way they are everyone would love to go the easy. Everyone has a darkside and at one time or another will give in to it. Can you honestly say you've done nothing to cheat this game? no lighthack, sharing, anything? i say about 90% of the servers has broken the TOS at one point or another.
What are the chances of sumeone exploited a "bug" if its been fixed already? 0% am i wrong? This "bug" should've been fixed during the TEST phase which i guess went so well.
I jus wish ppl would stop acting so big and be frank with themselves.
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comment by Daos on April 30, 2003 11:09 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
And this is really sad.. ppl like Whitehand and Bravehearts are shells of their former selves lmao trying to argue that they didnt break the rules and they should have their accts back... daaaamn must suck but thats what you get when you mess with a company error for your own profit
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comment by demonicarrow on April 30, 2003 11:07 pm ET
re: 5/1 - Server Publish
ok, so...i didnt have an elf before ep 11, just because it's added into the game, doesn't mean i have to like it...then again, doesn't mean can't complain about it..so..bite me -.-
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comment by BigPope on April 30, 2003 11:05 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Protocol, The test server doesn't do its job if people dont find the bugs and report them their. Our test server is purposeless and should just be gotten rid of. Rarely is a bug discovered on test, and even rarer is it reported on test. I never said that NC-US knew of the bug. In order for them to know of it NC-Korea would have to tell them. And we have no proof that NC-Korea told them of it. So we have to assume that NC-US had no idea about it til it was expoilted. Unless you have proof like a e-mail from korea to us that shows they knew, we can't say that they did.
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comment by Daos on April 30, 2003 11:05 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
K-Zs-M... you know me better than I know myself. Its scary :P
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comment by NoLuCK on April 30, 2003 11:04 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
Protocol,
Yup, it all makes sense. There are 3 things important to this conversation.
1. an exploit exists.
2. Using it results in being banned.
3. You choose whether to use it or not.
I know everyone is pissed off that their friends are gone. This is understandable. They are lucky to have such loyal friends. I am sorry that this happened, but I still love to argue to defend the truth.
I know that there was a BUG.. Everyone knows this now.. But the people involved had a moment where they could have chosen to do the right thing. This is the difference between the good and the bad. I admit, some people make mistakes, or make the wrong choice because they dont know better, but you cannot judge a person by what might be. The fact remains that the exploiters get banned because that is what happens to exploiters.
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comment by BigPope on April 30, 2003 11:01 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
I am not saying that its only one persons fault over this. And I think NCsoft knows that it is part their fault. Just like amer said, It is who gets caught that gets punished. And expoiting a bug is a lot easier to track down then buying/seling items, and sharing accounts. The last 2 are near impossible to prove that they do it. Even people saying things in game isn't real proof. I have said that I am someone else and not me just so I didn't have to talk to people before in lineage. Hell thats a good excuse if you do something completely stupid. It wasn't me, it was my buddy tim. It doesnt mean its true.
They can tell that these people bought mass ammount of scrolls, then teled to pandora and sold them. And they did this repeativly, or they wouldn't have got caught. Things like this are easy to track. Having different IP's could be playing from multiple spots. Being given an item for no reason could mean a guys giving out free items before he quits, or lending it to you. These things are harder to prove then something that they can look at their screens and see what you did excatly.
NC knows they messed up. Now they are doing their best to fix what they did is wrong. And get rid of the players the broke the rules. You break the rules, get caught you get punished. Thats the way life is. Just because its right infront of you on a silver platter doesn't mean you should take it and break a rule.
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comment by Protocol on April 30, 2003 10:54 pm ET
re: Public Service Announcement
noluck, point is this "exploit" was known already and COULD have been prevented long time ago. But NC decided not to. Does that make sense in any way to you? that means that they could have PREVENTED it since it was well known already, and nobody should've had this chance of finding it because it SHOULD have been corrected during the TEST SERVER phrase which the point of it is to find out bugs/exploits and correct them BEFORE it goez to live servers.
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