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June 14, 2002 04:47 pm ET - research by amateras

High levels in Korea

Ssizz over at Lineage Playforum (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051003&kid=1168) interviewed a few level 60+ players (apparently, there are a few) and posted some information in a recent news post.

Below, on Castoll server, is 0Hercules0 (thanks to jayrule for the name correction) - a level 60 STR knight (started as CON knight, but added STR). Check out his stats - he has over 750 HP, 23 STR, 18 DEX, 18 CON and -81 AC!

It's not clear that WhiteSunny is level 60 from the article, but what is clear is that he is a 52+ mage. Check out them ettins!

June 14, 2002 04:48 pm ET (#1)

PinPointy
Loyal Fan
54 posts
05-02-02

FIRST ^^, nice stats lol

June 14, 2002 04:55 pm ET (#3)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Holy Christ DK mage with ettins O.o

June 14, 2002 04:55 pm ET (#4)

puntangpi
Loyal Fan
9 posts
06-05-02

DAMN! i wish i coud get that ac and lev and stats and last but not least items... one day hopefully ^^

June 14, 2002 04:55 pm ET (#5)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Funny how he dont have a b-tsu?

June 14, 2002 04:56 pm ET (#6)

LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-15-02

i don't want to be against him
5 ettins and a dk against me O.o

June 14, 2002 04:57 pm ET (#7)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

-81ac...
he has an average enchantment on his items of +10.6
i wonder how much money he spent on buying those items

June 14, 2002 05:24 pm ET (#8)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

o.o mommy

June 14, 2002 05:26 pm ET (#9)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

damn man you dont buy items like that you make them. Better wuestion is how much stuff did he blow making that stuff jeez

June 14, 2002 05:29 pm ET (#10)

Schwartz
Loyal Fan
134 posts
02-08-02

It's screenshots like that that make me want to blow up my SOF.. hehe

June 14, 2002 05:36 pm ET (#11)

DemonGeist
Loyal Fan
69 posts
03-22-02

there are only 3 ettins, they have the cha/6 thing over there

June 14, 2002 05:37 pm ET (#12)

KaNfYgIrL
Loyal Fan
55 posts
04-30-02

lol stupid ppl

its not his items only check his dex ! >.<!!
he has 15ac becuz of dex >.<

June 14, 2002 05:37 pm ET (#13)

KaNfYgIrL
Loyal Fan
55 posts
04-30-02

but still i am jelous =)

June 14, 2002 05:40 pm ET (#14)

OLDMAN
Loyal Fan
100 posts
04-04-02

Those guys could easily slay few dragons o.O Crazy.

June 14, 2002 05:41 pm ET (#15)

Spyder
Loyal Fan
148 posts
12-04-01

cuz of his 18dex doesnt that make his avverage armor +8? zzz im prob wrong lol anyway ill be there real soon with my test knight lol! im lvl 25 w00t =p

June 14, 2002 05:45 pm ET (#16)

ZPsyMageZ
Loyal Fan
110 posts
12-01-01

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what about poseidon? what level is he now? o.o

June 14, 2002 05:47 pm ET (#17)

DyNaSTy
Loyal Fan
13 posts
03-20-02

yammie
read a lil more closely next time ^_^
in korea and in the usa we both have that dex update 18dex lv 60 so divide 60 by 4 and u get 15 cause when u have 18 dex u get -1 ac every 4 levels.
so then subtract 81-15 and u end up w/ -66ac so -66 is his raw ac and so then u can divide the number of items u can plus which is 7 and divide that into 66
so his average enchantment is about +8 or +9 ^_^ not +10 keke

is this y u quit ur site www.worldoflineage.com cause u got the wrong info?
haha just kidding dude

June 14, 2002 05:57 pm ET (#18)

BaBoMaN_Elf
Loyal Fan
26 posts
03-14-02

Just two words that discrides them 60+ ppl, NNNOOO LLLIIIFFFEEE!!!

June 14, 2002 06:01 pm ET (#19)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

who knows maybe lineage is there life some people preffer to play games then go out it is somewhat human nature

June 14, 2002 06:02 pm ET (#20)

Spyder
Loyal Fan
148 posts
12-04-01

u forgot caffine...lotsa caffine...

June 14, 2002 06:05 pm ET (#21)

DrunkenKnight
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-25-02

cries i wish i could be in dk morph T.T

June 14, 2002 06:05 pm ET (#22)

GovernMent
Loyal Fan
137 posts
04-30-02

no you forgot they have 4-5 people playing their acc. 24/7

June 14, 2002 06:19 pm ET (#23)

Scaleb
Loyal Fan
224 posts
10-24-01

lol, I like the way he has all the lvl1 magic spells hotkey'd.

Oh he could be using shield aswell making his raw ac -65? Not that is makes much difference, it's mad ac anyway :D

DK with 3 ettins must be able to take anything he wants.

June 14, 2002 06:29 pm ET (#24)

mp3
Loyal Fan
193 posts
02-12-02

i want to see the mages stats ... and hp/mp

i guess if you going to take lv 50+ seriously... con anyclass is best? cuz you can just add-in the stat points afterwards... and have crazy hp

Hey if you were a 18con18wis mage and you get 51+ would it be better to put points to your Int till you have 18int? or put everything into str or dex or even more wis..... cuz more wis = more MR+faster mp regen? Just something to think about and... i want to see that mages stats >.< i want to know what those 50+ mages are putting into stats ~__~

June 14, 2002 06:32 pm ET (#25)

BurningDeath
Loyal Fan
42 posts
04-20-02

lvl 60 is 10 points spended.

His base con was 18, so he didnt put anything into con.

His base str is 16 + pg = 18 + str ammy = 19, he added 4 into strength which makes it 23, and the other 6 into dex (12 + 6 = 18 dex).

June 14, 2002 06:35 pm ET (#26)

PuNiSheR
Loyal Fan
7 posts
06-14-02

...

June 14, 2002 06:37 pm ET (#27)

cruelgame
LC Reporter
290 posts
04-04-02

Neo you gonna go for 52? Dk Neo with summoned ettins O.o

June 14, 2002 06:37 pm ET (#28)

Yammie
Loyal Fan
213 posts
11-14-01

oh yeah dex..
i havent played much in a while so it wasnt in my mind when i did it up..

June 14, 2002 07:17 pm ET (#29)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

about his gear...
kv, str ammy, t-shirt, epm, cop, rotc/ropc, p-g, belt of body, es, ring of earth, i-boot
several words to describe: damn, omg, holy!, ouch!, doh!
no need nc to make any new looks for knights..dk morphs r good enough lol...

his hp:
if he's using belt of body (50hp) then...
782hp - belt of body (50hp) = 732hp net...
600hp at lv 48, lv 60 - lv 48 = 12lv, 732hp - 600hp = 132hp gained, avg hp gained is 132hp/12lv = 11hp/lv (which is...not that good for a con knight...)

if he use "old" belt of body (30hp) then..
782hp - old belt of body (30hp) = 752hp
600hp at lv 48, lv 60 - lv 48 = 12lv, 752hp - 600hp = 152hp gained, avg hp gained is 152hp/12lv = 12.67hp/lv (which is...average for a con knight...)

June 14, 2002 07:28 pm ET (#30)

lol123
Loyal Fan
90 posts
03-12-02

Damn looks good :)~

June 14, 2002 07:32 pm ET (#31)

Bilsabub
Loyal Fan
31 posts
12-01-01

he ain't THAT tuff..... o.0

lets see him 4:1 my TAMED GOBLINS! AHHHHH!

June 14, 2002 07:40 pm ET (#32)

Rincewind
Loyal Fan
279 posts
02-12-02

Wowee!

Btw, Amer, how are we supposed to look at playforum articles when they always have a login/password required?

June 14, 2002 07:46 pm ET (#33)

mp3
Loyal Fan
193 posts
02-12-02

i want to know the mage stats not knight -.-

June 14, 2002 08:08 pm ET (#34)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

gigi: That's a Belt of Body (+50 HP) he is wearing. 732 current HP - 16 starting HP = 716 HP gained in 59 levels = 12.1 HP per level gain. That is *exactly* the average that our calculator determined (it's so accurate! ^^) The higher level you are, the more average you will be as the random HP gains per level even out.

Rincewind: The links are not there for further exploration always - sometimes they are there so you know that it's not our reporting, but our translation of PlayForum reports. If you want to see the PlayForum article, you can sign up for a free DreamX account (but you need a Korean SSN -- T_T)

June 14, 2002 08:15 pm ET (#35)

DA1Y3N
Loyal Fan
13 posts
04-23-02

#29
u say 600hp at lvl 48... that is a big guess...
i say his 782hp - 50hp(for belt) = 732hp - 16hp(lev 1) = 716hp / 59 = 12.14 hp per level up,, this is a much better guess than what you had.
and 12.14 is a little above average for 18con knight.

June 14, 2002 08:16 pm ET (#36)

DA1Y3N
Loyal Fan
13 posts
04-23-02

err.... damned amer post this at same time as i type it :(!

June 14, 2002 08:20 pm ET (#37)

DrowElf
Loyal Fan
76 posts
01-16-02

Quick question....Sorry if this is confusing, I'm having a hard time putting this into words...

If you add dex to your stats after lvl 50, will your ac decrease for the first 50 levels, or will it just increase for the levels after you increased your dex.

For instance if you started with 12 dex, and added 6 points to dex by the time you are level 57, would you get the -1 ac every 4 levels for all 57 levels, or just after level 57, and get whatever the 12 dex bonus is up until that point?

Thanks

June 14, 2002 08:22 pm ET (#38)

Warrior
Loyal Fan
34 posts
10-15-01

government you are a moron
those ppl dont have each 4-5ppl playing their acc 24/7

June 14, 2002 08:23 pm ET (#39)

omega
Loyal Fan
38 posts
12-01-01

im lvl 4x knight and i have more mp than this guy

June 14, 2002 08:31 pm ET (#40)

Drow999
Loyal Fan
24 posts
02-06-02

O.O....60+.....is poseidon almost 70 yet....?....

June 14, 2002 08:45 pm ET (#41)

xLondonBroilx
Loyal Fan
200 posts
10-02-01

To Dynasty #17

His ac is -81. His dex bonus gives him 15 extra ac(maybe 14, I'm not entirely sure how the dex bonus works if it starts at lvl 1 or lvl 4 or what). Without the bonus then that leaves him at -66. From a starting point of +10 ac that's a 76 point difference.

The base ac of the stuff he's wearing is 3(kv), 6(epm), 3(cop), and 3(ib) which is another 15 ac. That leaves 61 ac points to distribute between 7 items. That makes the average enchanted item +8.7

EDIT: I would guess he's got +8p-g's and +8ib's. The rest are +9.

June 14, 2002 09:10 pm ET (#42)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

You are forgetting something...If I am not mistaken, they get -1 ac every lvl after lvl 50, so subtract 9 from 66 and you get -57 ac (if my math is correct).

June 14, 2002 09:10 pm ET (#43)

PeNTeL
Loyal Fan
299 posts
12-11-01

why would he need mp to str/enchant o.o? he has the same str as my con knight with pg/ammy/spell T_________T

June 14, 2002 09:49 pm ET (#44)

Desire
Loyal Fan
2 posts
05-31-02

Gunter server Poseidon lev.69

June 14, 2002 10:14 pm ET (#45)

FistofPower
Loyal Fan
31 posts
03-07-02

How u know Gunter

June 14, 2002 10:33 pm ET (#46)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

amer (#34) and da1y3n (#35):
im just showing ppl that he didnt have SUPER good lv ups and such...
just average lv ups can still get 18con knight to that hp =)

o...and thx amer for clearing that belt thing...was just guessing ^^
belt of body (50HP) cost how much on live servers now?...O.o...dang..he's a rich guy probably >,<

oh..this post shows DIFFERENT combination of using their stats point after going lv 50+ and their result...
str = faster lv up, hit harder, more carrying capacity
dex = dex/ac bonus, more accurate hit
con = more hp upon lv, faster hp regen, more carrying capacity

i think...showing 50+ mages how they put their points into stats will show us another side of the story o.O...
int = more spell bonus, more magic attack power, less mp required for spells
wis = more mp upon lv, faster mp regen, more magic resistance

charisma...im not really sure lol.....

okay..my post ends here...keep posting ppl =)

June 14, 2002 10:44 pm ET (#47)

TLFmaster
Loyal Fan
223 posts
12-02-01

My 45 knight has 68 MP.

June 15, 2002 12:24 am ET (#48)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

Legolas4 players don't get -1 ac after every lvl after 50.... or else they would have more ac!

June 15, 2002 12:48 am ET (#49)

Cowboy
Loyal Fan
74 posts
10-02-01

this is all i have to say
-_-

June 15, 2002 01:28 am ET (#50)

Elbryan
Loyal Fan
180 posts
01-21-02

If I were hurakera I would have put 2 more points in con (first 2 points). The dex/ac could wait.

If I were hurakera.. but I'm not :P.

Congratulations for what it's worth.

June 15, 2002 02:15 am ET (#51)

Lostheaven
Loyal Fan
185 posts
10-06-01

Yammie is the reason why I stayed with Lineage. Amer you are doing a great job!

June 15, 2002 02:16 am ET (#52)

Fishstik
Loyal Fan
97 posts
04-24-02

Warrior..correct, GovernMent is a moron.
..but i think they do have 4/5 ppls sharing accounts. NoBoDy can by ThAt nerdy to play 24/7 by themselves o.O.

June 15, 2002 02:21 am ET (#53)

SynCaine
Loyal Fan
4 posts
03-07-02

Here is some news for everyone: I got a t-s from NC today. has a pict of a female elf with a sword on the front chest part, and on the back it has the mac logo, then "Lineage" and under that says "Beta Test Team". Its a high quality t-s, marron colored. Someone else who was in mac beta should scan it so everyone can see, its pimped out.

June 15, 2002 03:05 am ET (#54)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

o.0 why do mac users get cool shirts and why havent i gotten my shirt yet T.T damn u nc i want my shirt wahhhhhhhhhhh =[ lol j/k if i did get the shirt ide only wear it if the back got rid of saying bristish is back the front logo was cool =]

June 15, 2002 03:08 am ET (#55)

Desire
Loyal Fan
2 posts
05-31-02

Poseidon Lev.69

June 15, 2002 03:15 am ET (#56)

GovernMent
Loyal Fan
137 posts
04-30-02

uhh you don't think 4-5 people play their acc. HA alot of koreans(in korea)dont have computers in their house. so they play at cafe's i can bet this guy is one of them. in fact i bet all lvl 60+ chars are played by more than one person

June 15, 2002 05:01 am ET (#59)

Legolas4
Loyal Fan
127 posts
05-31-02

I am a PC user and I got one of those t-shirts, I am thinking of finding a way to get rid of the "British id Back" on the back of it, but it ain't working so well. Any idead?

June 15, 2002 05:38 am ET (#61)

OLDMAN
Loyal Fan
100 posts
04-04-02

Do I smell a ban?

June 15, 2002 05:45 am ET (#62)

LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-15-02

#57 - HA alot of koreans dont have computers in their house
Have u already been to Korea because when i went there i saw a lot of people who had computers at their house.I can't really see 100.000 people playing in cafe's (100.000 people is the minimum of people playing on internet)

June 15, 2002 05:49 am ET (#63)

LifeOrDeath
Loyal Fan
81 posts
04-15-02

Daos and Governenment are right,there r more than 1 person playing on their acc.We had this discussion on a thread (when Poseidon reached lvl 64)At the end,everybody admitted that it was impossible for a person to lvl so fast and to be able to have soo much money for pots and being at sieges on it's own

June 15, 2002 05:49 am ET (#64)

GarbageMan
Loyal Fan
46 posts
06-11-02

yep

June 15, 2002 05:54 am ET (#65)

elsontight
Loyal Fan
13 posts
06-14-02

he was -66ac before dex bouns update

June 15, 2002 07:28 am ET (#66)

Cowboy
Loyal Fan
74 posts
10-02-01

This has nothing to do with this article, or even lineage. But am i the only one who finds this extremely funny? http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/technopuppet.html
maybe its only funny if ur stoned o.o;

June 15, 2002 07:33 am ET (#67)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

hm maybe cowboy o.o o well i dont get high or stoned so i wouldnt know

June 15, 2002 10:42 am ET (#68)

Neo
Loyal Fan
219 posts
12-05-01

those ettins looks nice o.o

Neo

June 15, 2002 11:22 am ET (#69)

DaLazyProdigy
Loyal Fan
3 posts
06-13-02

Hey, I've been Playing Lineage for 2 years and here is how i can prove that Government is not what he says he is(not lying): (these are all approximations cause i don't have time to go into detail)

It takes 5 zels for a +5 item and there is about at most 25% chance to get it.
So it would take at least 600k to make a +5 item by yourself.
It takes 6 zels for a +6 item and there is about at most 23% chance to get it.
So it would be at least 2500k to make a +6 item by yourself.
It takes 7 zels for a +7 item and there is about at most 21% chance to get it.
So it would be at least 10000k to make a +7 item by yourself.
It takes 8 zels for a +8 item and there is about at most 19% chance to get it.
So it would be at least 40000k to make a +7 item by yourself.
Going on... +9 160000k, +10 640000k +11 1280000 and lastly +12 2560000k
Meaning You had at least 25.6 billion dollars to start this thing... Not likely... and i don't believe in your luck...

June 15, 2002 11:23 am ET (#70)

DaLazyProdigy
Loyal Fan
3 posts
06-13-02

And Guys Yes i am still in the game... haunting you guys... and I've changed my screenname... I'm the 8th person to reach level 30 on US test as well... hehehe try to guess who i am...

June 15, 2002 12:59 pm ET (#71)

Etikilam
Loyal Fan
381 posts
02-12-02

it took me 180k to make a +6 cotton robe and it was on my first try. Some people are that lucky. +7 took me about 20 tries but thats another story :>

June 15, 2002 01:02 pm ET (#72)

sikrob
Loyal Fan
98 posts
04-03-02

lazy you are an idiot. it does not take 600k to make a +5 item. you stupid retard. if you were back on dep i would pk you so fast. amer if you played dep you would know how annoying this little bastard is.

twizt.

June 15, 2002 01:53 pm ET (#73)

Elbryan
Loyal Fan
180 posts
01-21-02

Guys - don't get scammed by the 8th person to reach level 30 on Test.

June 15, 2002 02:30 pm ET (#74)

BlackBow
Loyal Fan
39 posts
06-12-02

Knowing Lazy from dep he was probably the 30th person to lvl 8 and has quit leveling to try and scam people full time now. =P

June 15, 2002 03:57 pm ET (#75)

PeNTeL
Loyal Fan
299 posts
12-11-01

hmmm...

Taera: A lot of people have been ACC sharing lately. Is there any plans as to what will be done about this?
Scorch: Account sharing is a violation of the Terms of Agreement which everyone agrees to when they create an account. Sharing an account often leads to one of the people dishonoring the others trust. Items are lost, and often the account or characters are lost too
Scorch: If we find an account which has been used by another person, then that account will be closed permanently.

nc = liarssssssssssssss

June 15, 2002 04:58 pm ET (#76)

Mike
Loyal Fan
18 posts
05-05-02

what + is his tsurugi?

June 15, 2002 05:12 pm ET (#77)

jayrule
Loyal Fan
2 posts
06-15-02

Hurakera...it's not his name-,-;;
it's...Hercules in english...
koreans call it "Hye-ra-clas"-,-;;

June 15, 2002 07:16 pm ET (#78)

TOOL
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-28-01

16str -> 20str 12dex -> 18 dex 4 and 6 thats, 10 points, dont the us servers get the +1 stat at lvl 51?

June 15, 2002 08:06 pm ET (#79)

TOOL
Loyal Fan
162 posts
10-28-01

why korean servers get +1 at 50 and us servers get +1 at 51?

June 15, 2002 10:36 pm ET (#80)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Korean servers get +1 at 51, just like US servers. (He's wearing STR ammy and P-G)

jayrule: I would expect Hercules to be more like 헬큐리서 .. sorry :(

June 16, 2002 12:12 am ET (#81)

Daos
Loyal Fan
182 posts
05-31-02

PeNTeL = babo o.O

June 16, 2002 12:14 am ET (#82)

guttermouth
Loyal Fan
68 posts
06-15-02

I know a knight on the us live servers who is lvl 56 hes in a korean pledge the only reason i trust him is he dk morphed in TI/MLC dungeons when noone was there and he begged me not to tell or i would why would anyone want to keep it a secret

June 16, 2002 01:17 am ET (#84)

Luckie
Loyal Fan
151 posts
03-19-02

.... so tehy dont get hacked... lolz he aint da only one 50+ hat aint on LC.... most of the koeran/chinese pledges in Dep server have at least 1 50+ character in it

June 16, 2002 03:51 am ET (#85)

NeoCross
Loyal Fan
139 posts
03-20-02

English/American love to brag about 50+...

then the koreans who get it love to rub it in when they dont brag and get mass higher lvls and kick americans/english arses ;)

C O R E A ! ! !

June 16, 2002 11:11 am ET (#86)

BigPope
LC Admin
622 posts
01-18-02

Ok. Why doyou like to lie so much. I know we dont have every 50+ char on LC. but i do know we have every 52+ char. I have asked ncsoft empolyees and they said that we had all 52+ chars that was 1 week ago. and and doubt someone made it from 50 to 56 in 1 week.

June 16, 2002 03:05 pm ET (#87)

guttermouth
Loyal Fan
68 posts
06-15-02

Go hunt DVC for a while and maybe you will see a DK whith a korean flag emblem o wait he probably has the DK set hahahaha

June 16, 2002 03:06 pm ET (#88)

guttermouth
Loyal Fan
68 posts
06-15-02

O and another thing we all no how truthfule NCsoft is they lie like mad

June 16, 2002 03:57 pm ET (#89)

Gogeta
Loyal Fan
84 posts
06-12-02

what a newbie! ONLY -81 ac thats sad... LOL... joking joking joking...
he tamed those ettins -.-... y does he have 18 dex when he is a knight -.-...
how come he has spells -.-..... how do u gain more str and dex or con other then ammy...
i can 1 on 1 him and kill him in 1 hit...*wishes*

June 16, 2002 05:21 pm ET (#90)

guttermouth
Loyal Fan
68 posts
06-15-02

He has dex for dex/ac and so he hits target more and u can get extra stats when u get to lvl 50 and every lvl above that u get 1 point

June 16, 2002 05:22 pm ET (#91)

guttermouth
Loyal Fan
68 posts
06-15-02

Tell chinad0ll on dep dragonman's coming back

June 16, 2002 07:10 pm ET (#92)

lol123
Loyal Fan
90 posts
03-12-02

Guttermouth what made u the one that is so special that someone would just be like here is my morph dont tell anyone like they know u to trust you not to tell anyone. Also if anyone were 52+ i can gaurantee that they would be hunting as that and not something else.. Am i making any sense to u?

June 16, 2002 07:26 pm ET (#93)

PROKNIGHT
Loyal Fan
40 posts
02-20-02

no we all know u lie like mad guttermouth. You have nothing better to say than to make of stories.

Meaningless posts will be deleted. You don't have to post on *every* article. ^^

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Violating any rule will usually get your post deleted. Repeat offenders will find their posting privileges revoked. Violating rule #1 may also get you banned from the whole site. Thanks!