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November 08, 2002 08:08 pm ET - research by amateras

11/8 Korean Test Server updates

Lineage Playforum reports (http://community.playforum.net:8080/bbs/prog/column?action=read&iid=10051004&kid=2825) that new updates were published to the Korean Test servers on 11/8:

Monsters in Hidden Valley and Singing Island have been made easier.
Siege interval has been changed from "every 2 days" to "every 4 days". To compensate for the double income collection of pledges that keep a castle, the prince will get 40% less adena from taxes.
Added enchanter NPCs to each castle so that castle-owning pledges can receive free Enchant Weapon and Bless Armor.
In Free PvP zones, the 1/8 damage by monsters rule (we previously posted that dogs and summons will inflict 1/8 normal damage in PvP combat) does not apply.
Cancelling players (or tames and summons) that are not in your pledge or party (or their tames or summons) will turn you "pink".
Using Return to Nature will turn you "pink".
Call Clan will not work on locations that cannot be bookmarked (does not apply to siege zones).

November 08, 2002 08:15 pm ET (#1)

Stan
Loyal Fan
9 posts
10-12-02

dammit, I want this update so bad, the 4 days thing is good. And enchant thing dude.

November 08, 2002 08:15 pm ET (#2)

OOPS
Loyal Fan
7 posts
11-04-02

Free enchanters at castle T_T

November 08, 2002 08:19 pm ET (#3)

Onlyone
Loyal Fan
247 posts
02-07-02

omg -.- GIMIE

November 08, 2002 08:21 pm ET (#4)

ProHunterX
Loyal Fan
15 posts
02-12-02

Wow.....Things are getting better and better....Not worse!

November 08, 2002 08:23 pm ET (#5)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

Every 4 days but 40% less... I guess that's a good trade off.

"Does not apply to siege zones" meaning you can use it right beside tower?...
I could just see an attacking pledge's prince/ss calling a few dk knights right beside tower o.O

November 08, 2002 08:27 pm ET (#7)

HellKat
Loyal Fan
75 posts
06-20-02

Is LC loading reeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllllly slow for anyone?

Sound like a cool update.

November 08, 2002 08:30 pm ET (#9)

Ramza
Loyal Fan
722 posts
01-11-02

yeah its running slow for me at times T.T

November 08, 2002 08:30 pm ET (#10)

vision
Loyal Fan
22 posts
10-13-02

4 days + 20% increase in tax money. sounds uber to me.

(100%[you collect tax twice now right?] tax x2 - 40% x2 = 120%)

or is it 200% - 40% = 160%?

Edit:

i just confused myself.

November 08, 2002 08:31 pm ET (#11)

Onlyone
Loyal Fan
247 posts
02-07-02

we know

November 08, 2002 08:37 pm ET (#12)

Ranger
Loyal Fan
144 posts
06-21-02

Amer: what's the background behind #4? I dun understand -.-

November 08, 2002 08:41 pm ET (#13)

OriginalWerewolf
Loyal Fan
18 posts
11-06-02

Because Summon does 1/8 dmg to ppl when Pking but in Combat Zone it does full dmg to players like it used to or still does in US the 1/8 dmg from summon was in one of the recent korean updates.

^^

November 08, 2002 08:42 pm ET (#16)

P0WER
Loyal Fan
10 posts
10-25-02

c00l&c00king

November 08, 2002 08:43 pm ET (#17)

OriginalWerewolf
Loyal Fan
18 posts
11-06-02

Because Summon does 1/8 dmg to ppl when Pking but in Combat Zone it does full dmg to players like it used to or still does in US the 1/8 dmg from summon was in one of the recent korean updates.

^^

November 08, 2002 08:47 pm ET (#22)

Gundam01
Loyal Fan
44 posts
10-13-02

Yea LC loading slow for me to...This update is not so bad nice trade off for the extra two days and the enchanters. OriginalWerewolf dont hit the "Add" button lots times because your laggin ^-^.

November 08, 2002 08:51 pm ET (#23)

Onlyone
Loyal Fan
247 posts
02-07-02

o.o gimie gimie -.- omg omg ... i want to be in castle pledge :'(

November 08, 2002 08:56 pm ET (#24)

Doomscythe
Loyal Fan
1155 posts
03-21-02

o.o woo free enchanters....

November 08, 2002 08:56 pm ET (#25)

Geebee
Loyal Fan
3 posts
09-06-02

Yeah, but his (Original Werewolf) post count stayed at 10????

November 08, 2002 08:59 pm ET (#26)

FrozenYak
Loyal Fan
125 posts
09-30-02

ahh....theres the hitch to the new prince cape, it should at least work if your defending a castle

November 08, 2002 09:05 pm ET (#27)

Rincewind
Loyal Fan
279 posts
02-12-02

Nice update. =)

November 08, 2002 09:37 pm ET (#28)

Meral
Loyal Fan
33 posts
09-11-02

siege thing sucks.. If you have castle 2 days stay for siege none shows your out 40% sucks to me.

November 08, 2002 09:52 pm ET (#29)

Converse
Loyal Fan
16 posts
10-08-02

I like the update
also mentioned was the 'return to nature' spell
any other info on what spells were added?
besides the elemental summons and what not
specifically I am hoping to see some applied mage spells
plz

November 08, 2002 09:56 pm ET (#30)

h2ombre
Loyal Fan
333 posts
02-28-02

Meral is right. If you own a castle that isnt sieged often then the new rule screws you.

November 08, 2002 10:16 pm ET (#31)

hynn1
Loyal Fan
5 posts
11-01-02

If cancel is a lawful spell... why does it make you pink?
its just like healing and it makes you pink

November 08, 2002 10:23 pm ET (#32)

theclanx
Loyal Fan
111 posts
07-09-02

I always wondered why cancel wasn't a chaotic spell.

November 08, 2002 10:29 pm ET (#33)

Tempo
Loyal Fan
55 posts
04-30-02

This is stupid update..
example : castle earns 2mil every 2days currently
now castle earns 800k every 2 days and u keep for 4days..
thats 1.6m for 4 days wen we use to earn 2mil for 2days..
thats more than half less~!!!!!!!!!!! --;;; not fair for new castle owners when old ones earned almost double them...~~

November 08, 2002 10:40 pm ET (#34)

Smelly Fungus
Loyal Fan
16 posts
11-02-02

whooops! bad news for princes about the tax thingy but the prince and his pledge get a tiny advantage with the enchanty dude. HOW THE HELL CAN RETURN TO NATURE (elven spell) MAKE YOU PINK?!?!?! i thought all it does is teleport you back to mutha tree -.- .......

November 08, 2002 10:44 pm ET (#35)

Tissot
Loyal Fan
180 posts
06-22-02

If any elf Return to nature my lvl 48 dobberman im gonna be mothertree mad!

The 1/8 summon thing might have a solution that mage will be able to use them again in siege zones like good old days!

Siege peace time increase is good, the possibility that more ppl will attend each war raise by the law of statistics.

Cancel should be MR%, SP and Magic Bonus related. Correct me if im wrong but maybe also gender related, it's commonly known that females don't have the magical skills as we opposite true wizards posses.

Good that castle holders gets more advantage, that will make more pledges wanna own a castle and might lead to less gamedestroying alliences.

Tips of the day: To avoid deaths you have to keep your healthpoints above zero.
-Tissot

November 08, 2002 10:57 pm ET (#36)

amer
LC Admin
864 posts
07-11-01

Tempo: Castle earns 2 mil every 2 days. 40% reduction = 1.2 mil every 2 days. For 4 days = 2.4 mil.

Smelly Fungus: Return to Nature makes summoned/magically tamed mops go wild. You are thinking of "Return to Mother" which is a different spell.

Cancel is a neutral spell because it can be used for both good and evil. Now they are giving a punishment for using it for evil.

November 09, 2002 02:58 am ET (#38)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

how does the game know if you are using cancel for good or evil if someone not in your pledge or party gets slowed and you cancel it you go pink. why would return to nature make u pink it should only be able to be used on your own stuff -_- i think it would be gay if you were able to do it to a mages/elves summons and tames (non-dog ones, spellcasted ones; that was for tissot u wont lose ur dog ^_^) i can see a new 'amendment' to griefer tactics being whined about already ~~

November 09, 2002 03:20 am ET (#39)

Tempo
Loyal Fan
55 posts
04-30-02

YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!i tried to change wat i meant but LC went down ~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stupid><><><
anyways amer thats still almost half as less as b4..

November 09, 2002 05:17 am ET (#40)

Hazaanko
Loyal Fan
13 posts
06-19-02

I'm glad of the increase to 4 days... that should make more ppl show up to sieges... make it a bigger deal. Which then makes it more planning and strategy intensive.

November 09, 2002 06:55 am ET (#41)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

haha

now prince/princess r gonna tele their best members into the castle easily
if they get in that is

the game is gonna get really interesting now

but the poor prince/princess that owns castle is at a lost of money
maybe the 4 day thing really only applies to korean servers
since they r all packed with thousands of players on one server...

November 09, 2002 05:08 pm ET (#42)

Diode
LC Reporter
54 posts
06-14-02

They are not k-zs making less money, castles are acctually making more per siege. The only difference is a bigger gap between sieges. So insteal of making 2mil between a siege they now make 2.4 between sieges....

November 09, 2002 05:33 pm ET (#43)

FlyZ
Loyal Fan
791 posts
11-11-01

But you use to make 4m without the change...... that's 1.6m gone.

November 09, 2002 05:51 pm ET (#44)

melanor
Loyal Fan
61 posts
10-15-02

yeah u lose money with the extended period of time, and why did nc think that people would want siege times modified to 4 days, plus if some did why impose a penalty in money taken in by taxes which causes u make less money than u did if u had the castle for 4 days. ok now heine will become almost as bad as orc town, hiene barely makes 100k a day and if that 4 day thing comes here heine will only make 240k every 4 days which is plain bad. and giran is the one that really losses a lot of money cause of this,

plus sieges are what keeps some people in the game and if they make sieges occur less they may lose people.

now that i think about it could this 4 day thing be another thing to help get a less higher rating that what lienage has now other in korea? since lately they been puttin out a lot of things that make pvp less fun

November 09, 2002 09:14 pm ET (#45)

TheCollector
Loyal Fan
351 posts
09-07-02

using melanor's heine stats

100k a day (current)
(100k * 2) 200k (current siege period)
60k a day (new)
(100k * 4) * .60 = 240k (new siege period)

i guess this is where u look at people who see things 1 day at a time, and who actually looks down the road. you should care a whole hell of alot more about how much money u make for a siege period, not a day-by-day basis. is there something you really need with that castle money today what you can't wait for tomorrow to buy and have more money overall? what about siege expenses for you and your pledge(s)? would you rather spend unknown amounts of money every 2 days or that same unknown amount of money every 4 days? that means you save even more then~

November 09, 2002 09:35 pm ET (#46)

theassman
Loyal Fan
21 posts
10-17-02

"Call Clan will not work on locations that cannot be bookmarked" = BAD

BOOO NC!! THAT SUCKS!!!

November 09, 2002 11:36 pm ET (#47)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

when will Ep 12 come up o.o;?

so can "Call Clan" be used in castle o.O;?

November 10, 2002 03:07 am ET (#48)

sh0n
Loyal Fan
101 posts
11-28-02

I would just like to say

*** Not all updates on korean server ever, even hit US servers ***

Reason why I can see siege period switching from 2 day intervals to 4 days is because on korean servers there are at least 1.5k - 2k users at 1 given time.

The bigger sieges has a screen full of attackers and towers near the castle tower. You cannot move 1 cell at all!

While the smaller sieges I would think, would have a good 100-200 siegers/defenders.

What would be the purpose of making sieges 4 day intervals on US servers? I know some ppl that only plays the game for sieges. Why make it less?

Reason being so, Korean servers = more users. US servers = less.

If the 4 day interval system takes place, I wouldn't think it possibly will, it will be bad for the game.

November 10, 2002 03:57 pm ET (#49)

melanor
Loyal Fan
61 posts
10-15-02

trust me that 240k that heine would make wouldnt begin to cover all the cost generated for one heine siege unless the people u had there were nice and didnt want payment, i have known people to loose a lot of money just cause the place they own dont cover the expenses that was generated, so the less money that they want to the impose would just make it worse. if they got rid of that stupid tax penalty of 40% one of my major problems with this would be gone,

i could accept 4 day sieges or 3 day sieges as long as the 40% tax is gone

November 10, 2002 07:47 pm ET (#50)

Kyrrel
Loyal Fan
36 posts
10-13-02

I love sieging...this may make sieges more intense, or just the same only 1/2 as often. But with the taiwanese taking our castles on Ken it could be over a week before i get to siege.
Ex: Taiwanese take = 4 days after that american/euro retake = 4 days after that siege time i can attend o.o. Thats rediculous ><

November 10, 2002 08:02 pm ET (#51)

L
Loyal Fan
481 posts
01-16-02

mm.... does orc field has its own enchanter o.o;?

November 11, 2002 05:37 am ET (#52)

K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan
925 posts
05-04-02

cancel always turns u pink anyhow...

that was already applied to our servers...

prince/princess will be happy that clan call doesn't restrict siege zones when using the spell

the places where u can't bookmark normally, who cares
most important is during siege time, so a prince/princess can sneak in and cast the spell to bring their troops to kick ass

November 11, 2002 06:57 pm ET (#53)

gigi
Loyal Fan
641 posts
05-01-02

chiu...

the castle owners used to whine and whine how 2 days sieging period is annoying that they dont even can fully enjoy the benefits of owning the castle

now..they make it 4 days, and add in enchanters, and the -40% income
yes, the 40% income is kinda hurt but think of it like paying for those enchanters too - -:...

orc fort probably wont have these things...since it doesn't have a free storage for the owning pledge..

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