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November 13, 2002 03:12 am ET - research by Mr. Noodle
LoA: Hell
Another Update: I didnt complete my time in hell last night and today i logged on with a full minute unstead of the 12 seconds from yesterday. Maybe if it takes you more then a day to get out of hell you have to restart your hell experance or perhaps they redid some rules on hell after this post and now your first time their = 60 seconds.
update: We have an untested theory (sparked by Revised on LoA server) that if you die and lose experience, your PK count will go down by one. In our tests, we were too low a level (under 10) to lose experience, so death did not impact our PK count.
Ok, we all know that hell has been added to the LoA server. This makes you wonder what hell is like, and if pking will be worth hell. Well I got help from Greven (ken) who let me kill him 30 times in order for me to get a chance to goto hell and check it out. First off i have to tell you after you get 1/2 way to the amount of pks to get to hell (currently 30) you get a warning. The warning in blue (I think should be red), lasts 30 seconds, and follows you all the way up to 29. (I know blue is hard to read, so i wrote what it says below the pictures)

Your pk count is xx. If your pk count gets to 30, you will be sent to hell, so be careful.

Its nice to know that they care if you goto hell. After going to hell it was time for me to check it out. Sadly i didnt even get to arrive at hell, alive. I was killed by a guard and then teleported into hell.

Your PK count is 30. Now you will be sent to hell. You have to stay here for 0 minutes as punishment.

It turns out that 0 minutes was 30 seconds, 30 seconds that you must be alive and walking around foor. And when i first got to hell nothing was on my screen. So i believe that if the guard didnt kill me i could have lasted all 30 seconds. But Nope, so i had to start out on my quest to last 30 seconds in hell. This was no easy task for my level 4.5 mage. I found; Drakes, Skeleton Archers, Orc Scouts, Imp Elders, Cerberuses, and a Baphomet. Someone told me they saw a DK, I never did see him :( It seems all the monsters down their are fire based, which makes sense. While my level 4 mage stood no chance down there, I think any high level knight may be able to take it for the amount of time. The worst I saw was 3 drakes, which any knight on brave could have outrun for 30 seconds drinking pots.

Now time for the big question. Is PKing worth doing on the new LoA server? I would have to go with a yes, but its not for the average PK. Here are some reasons not to PK on LoA: First off, when you die your pk count never lowers, not even when you die. So that means 30 pks = 30 seconds, 31 pks = 1 minutes, 40 pks = 5 minutes. I doubt even high level char could last 5 minutes in hell. Another reason is there are no drops from anything you kill in hell. Why waste clears on some bapho or drake if it means you get nothing in return if you kill it. Other then that LoA has the normal disadvantages of pking: shops wont sell to you, people can hit you without taking guards help, etc.

November 13, 2002 03:20 am ET (#2)
OriginalWerewolf
Loyal Fan

18 posts
11-06-02

cool

November 13, 2002 03:21 am ET (#3)
natlswim
Loyal Fan

148 posts
04-10-02

no drops or exp from mops in hell?

November 13, 2002 03:22 am ET (#4)
Ranger
Loyal Fan

144 posts
06-21-02

So.. if you PK, you keep the count forever? Does it reset after you go to hell? Do you go to hell for every PK after 30?

November 13, 2002 03:28 am ET (#5)
EliteSoldier
Loyal Fan

63 posts
07-16-02

lol ouch >_<

November 13, 2002 03:28 am ET (#6)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

heheh funny

November 13, 2002 03:30 am ET (#7)
h2ombre
Loyal Fan

333 posts
02-28-02

Kill and be killed. I like it.

November 13, 2002 03:34 am ET (#8)
sh0n
Loyal Fan

101 posts
11-28-02

Now you can say

"I've been to hell and back"

November 13, 2002 03:35 am ET (#9)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

No, PK count sticks on LoA. You never get to go back!

November 13, 2002 03:36 am ET (#10)
Ramada
Loyal Fan

89 posts
03-18-02

Adds new meaning to telling that pker to "Go to hell!".....(grins)

November 13, 2002 03:37 am ET (#11)
Dragonspire
Loyal Fan

7 posts
10-11-02

Wow man, Thats some Cragy Stuff i just wanna see it... Is Experiance given out in Hell?

November 13, 2002 03:41 am ET (#12)
Ranger
Loyal Fan

144 posts
06-21-02

So... you make your 30th kill.. go to hell for 30seconds.. you kill again.. go to hell for 1minute.. ? or do you have to kill 31 times to go to hell again?

November 13, 2002 03:43 am ET (#13)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Kill #30, go to hell for 30 seconds, kill again, go to hell for 1 minute. Kill again, 90 seconds..

November 13, 2002 03:53 am ET (#15)
Ranger
Loyal Fan

144 posts
06-21-02

Yipes. Gotta make each one count then o.o

November 13, 2002 04:04 am ET (#16)
redpig
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283 posts
10-15-02

finally
it comes to US server~o.o;;

November 13, 2002 04:06 am ET (#17)
Carful_wthat_axe
Loyal Fan

15 posts
10-04-02

None of you are asking the important question however.

When u die in hell, do you loose exp? 2 min in hell could litterally make you delevel from 47 to 44 if your not fast enought to outrun mops.

November 13, 2002 04:11 am ET (#18)
BigPope
LC Admin

622 posts
01-18-02

When you die to a monster do you usally lose exp? That common since. You lose exp.

November 13, 2002 04:13 am ET (#19)
dafish
Loyal Fan

176 posts
11-17-01

30 is a bit low isn't it? i mean 30 pk count is nothing...

someting like 50 or even up to 100 is more like it...

November 13, 2002 04:32 am ET (#20)
GarbageMan
Loyal Fan

46 posts
06-11-02

So our pk count doesn't drop after a couple days in LoA? Cause in dep server, if you don't pk for a while, your pk count starts to drop slowly.

November 13, 2002 04:44 am ET (#21)
jelee23
Loyal Fan

1 posts
06-08-02

Please read my story. It have no connetion this news.
I can't found guest board..so I'll write this story at here.

It's happen on the Gludio(Is it right? I don't know corret english spelling.)
of korea.

Speak briefly and to the point..
Almost korean users lost kindness..so I experience many happenings..
Now many korean users are angered by this happening.

One user(elf,lv48..after write 'ELF') is killed by two user(one of them is death knight..after write 'DEATH').
After they make a quarrel for long time.
In this happening..the DEATH abuse ELF..abuse is Ae-jar.

Ae-jar means handicapped person.
Originaly Jang-ae-jar but many korean said Ae-jar by abuse.
More importance is the ELF is real handicapped person.
But the DEATH deos not stop abuse. Worst of all..DEATH said..
"If I'll meet you then I'll sever a remained leg from the your body."

omission of what follows..

I the writer want..you write news about this happening.

November 13, 2002 05:03 am ET (#22)
h2ombre
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333 posts
02-28-02

If you didnt lose exp in Hell what would be the point of having it?

November 13, 2002 07:11 am ET (#23)
mp34567
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89 posts
06-28-02

Well to global on the loa server u have to be level 90.......yes 90!!!! nc should change that i think

November 13, 2002 07:27 am ET (#24)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

r u sure u don't get any drops in hell?
cuz I sure don't expect anyone the first day to be able to handle any of the mops down there in hell
DK kept beating me up >_<
my poor lvl 5 knight with 35 pk count hehe

November 13, 2002 08:52 am ET (#25)
theassman
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-17-02

Well well well...hell sucks!

November 13, 2002 10:28 am ET (#26)
Teapot
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-12-02

well how is it going to work if this comes to dep and ken? i mean like going to hell in ken when u cant even player kill and thus you wont have the pk counts to goto hell. o_O

November 13, 2002 10:29 am ET (#27)
Teapot
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-12-02

does it mean that on ken we wont have hell just the quests and item etc. or would the pk count also count the kill you get when seiging etc.?

November 13, 2002 10:31 am ET (#28)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

hmmm..29pks for FREE o.o..
better conserve it and save it for some REAL GOOD enemies o.o

November 13, 2002 10:53 am ET (#29)
Xakor
Loyal Fan

12 posts
10-27-02

Just to make everyone realise... LOA is a server made by the US division of Lineage, they did it part because they wanted to go out of the scope of the ideas of the Koreans, all the things that comes up in LOA just won't come to the other servers, Ken and Dep will stick to being very similar to the Korean version of the game. There probably will never be any Hell in Ken or Dep unless Korean decide to do such a thing in an expansion for the Korean version of the game and then it would eventually come in the US... If you wanna play with these settings, do it now... or wait till they wipe and then never come back.

November 13, 2002 10:58 am ET (#30)
KnightSpirit
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137 posts
04-27-02

best not come to live servers -.-! i duno wana log on and have to spend an hour in hell \./

a question: How big is hell? is it just one room where everybody is sent?
If thats the case we can get a bunch of friends to go at same time and clear out the room lol

November 13, 2002 11:26 am ET (#31)
dutchpower
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81 posts
10-25-01

they made LOA cuz of all our complaints u mean o.o
and about hell if u die once there u dont rly have to finish the rest of ur time
and knightspirit i was thinking the same thing but i went there and saw 4drakes come towards me and no knight can take dmg from 3+ drakes
no other char can either btw, maybe with -8x ac :/

November 13, 2002 11:29 am ET (#32)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

Just got to lvl 10 on LoA. Mage is impossible (boring as hell) without SOM and with that low MP regen rate. Why wont they keep the high mp regen rate of SI? Getting the haste boots, trying the new SI and all was fun. Wish I could have stayed in SI for longer, lvl 10 was too low to leave. I couldnt try the new mops on the dungeon which I really did wanted to. Still too weak to survive in caves for long, it seems. Cant take con the sucubbi! Anyway, SI and never running out of MP was a mage's dream, no doubt on that.

BTW I very much appreciate NC's effort of doing a US oriented server.

November 13, 2002 11:58 am ET (#33)
BabyBlu.
Loyal Fan

9 posts
10-11-02

2 things that need to be said..
If it comes to Dep/Live servers what happens to all the people with 30+ pks...they go to hell automatically?
If your full lawful it doesnt count as a pk count..heheh...so thats not too bad
if you notice...this is my first post lol...down at the bottom is my 2nd post..ever!

November 13, 2002 12:33 pm ET (#34)
Spyder
Loyal Fan

148 posts
12-04-01

ya its fun pk'ing newbs on TI with 1mp ebolt to go to hell =p thing is that once u die the first time, there r only 4 respawn places, sure when u first tele in, u could end up anywhere, but u will die pretty quick, longest i lasted was when i spawned next to imp elders...i pumped until 2 drakes caught up to me and ended me..so basically unless ur under lvl 10, u rly dun wanna die, cuz the 4 respawns r camped BAD...as soon as u respawn with ur 1hp u r picked off by a marksmen or orc scout...the ocasional bapho erupt or dk earthquake O.o even drakes get stuck on top of the spawns...killing u instantly

sux cuz u die so fast it doesnt even count as 1 second, meaning u can die like 100 times b4 u get out lol..then of course u kill a newb on accident and ur back for like another minute (which is more like an hour >.<) but picture it if u die once at high lvl and drop potions O.o u will lvl down like 5 times lol

November 13, 2002 12:59 pm ET (#35)
Exiled
Loyal Fan

12 posts
10-12-02

Well it is safe to say that the LoA server is actually worse than KEN server.

Why?

#1 at least on ken, durring sieges, you can't accidently end someone outside the flags while your inside the flags. (Picture elf shooting from inside flags as someone, and them walking out just before they die.) -It happens, a lot!

#2 at least on ken, mages can't cancel you / weapon break you while your hunting, and then avoid you for 2 minutes so you can do nothing back; or face going to hell. (senarios like these happen MORE than 30 times a day w/o the hel factor - People do it because they can.)

IMHO - Hell should be a rate of kill punnishment; not a quantitive. You kill 1 person within 24 hours, you get hunted by the guards. Kill 5 - straight to hell! After you have gone successfully 24 hours w/o pking you start with a clean slate. I can't imagin all the creative ways that people will come up with to screw each other over with the current system.

Everything else sounds cool, but hell is a drag. Dep's no-limit warfare attitude is very apealing. The hell system as it exists now casts to much restraint on those of us who seek a serious PvP experience.

November 13, 2002 01:37 pm ET (#36)
(MoB)#3 AD
Loyal Fan

27 posts
11-04-02

never believed in hell b4 0.0

November 13, 2002 01:48 pm ET (#37)
Rincewind
Loyal Fan

279 posts
02-12-02

If they ever bring in the "chaotic ppl don't drop items, they disappear" thingy, hell will totally not be worth it.

November 13, 2002 01:52 pm ET (#38)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

i dont know if i was the first to get on hell but me and a friend did the same if u try it heres a suggestion right before u get the 30 or any kill after 30 get hasted and full hp so u can try to wonder around for a couple of seconds cause theres really no way of getting out since when u restart u end up at 1 hp and the mobs there are campers o.0
4 spawn spots each i went there(3 times) stupid orc scout camped 3 spawn spots so instant death meaning u time rarely goes down.
i also saw demon the first time i went but then baphy got me from the back with his stupid n00b cann0n (taste like rocks and dirt).
Theres also a basi the 2nd time i went but i pked in front of a guard so i die then teleport there -.- and dk is there i got a ebolt off of him hahaha anyways the worst i saw was 2 drakes and 2 bapho next to a spawn spot scarey for anyone without hp
and of course the all mighty SLIME is there.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~EDIT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
sorry if this info is useless now didnt see spyder's post. he was the one who killed me 30 times and i end him 30 times fun the first time u go 2nd time if theres more ppl its alright 3rd time its just a pain

November 13, 2002 01:58 pm ET (#39)
BabyBlu.
Loyal Fan

9 posts
10-11-02

YaY slime it will eat your +9 tsu and jus waiting for you to drop it...
and you can watch slowly silther over and swallow...and theres nothing you can do...>.<

November 13, 2002 02:01 pm ET (#40)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

ya i saw someone lose there rough died maybe 10 times tryig pick it up for them.
and if ur a mage be prepare to lose every single spell u got...
my question is how many of those mobs would see a person in coi?

November 13, 2002 02:06 pm ET (#41)
BabyBlu.
Loyal Fan

9 posts
10-11-02

Drakes & All bosses (bapho,demon,dk) can all see through coi...
Skel Archer,Orc Scout, Basi,Cerberus & all other lower mops cannot see through coi...

So basicaly any boss or drake can see you!
but the real question is...how often is the respawn down there...I mean a group of people could go to hell together and end a portion of the monsters...if it was a real spawn rate...lol like a few hours before they spawn...You can go on a killing frenzy without punishment..

November 13, 2002 02:16 pm ET (#42)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

yea i wanna find out too but im not gonna go make a middle lvl character with like 10 ppl to find out already wasted my whole night yesterday in hell. so if u do get in coi the first time u go its a plus cause then the annoying snipers archers same thing dont get shots off of you.
babyblu seems like u got alot of exp dealing with hell o.o
one thing they shoul do is add like 2 or 3 more spawn spots cause i know theres way more room in hell then that little area 1/4 of the size of the arena
oh yeah wat program do i use to open ss? formated the com and dont know how to open
me wants to see me dead at the feet of baphy dk cerb and the breathe of the drake (he needs some ice breakers)

November 13, 2002 02:29 pm ET (#43)
Shah
Loyal Fan

87 posts
06-10-02

Photoshop opens em and I guess irfanview (downloadable freeware) does too.

November 13, 2002 03:02 pm ET (#44)
speedy454
Loyal Fan

13 posts
10-04-02

What I want to know is you have to go to hell after 30 pk's for 30 seconds. Does that have to be 30 seconds alive with out getting killed or 30 seconds all total? Imagine being in hell for 29 seconds dieing and the 30 second count starts all over. :-)

November 13, 2002 03:23 pm ET (#45)
Seethe
Loyal Fan

18 posts
06-29-02

My question is what's the point of pking? I played Dep a very long time ago but I never pked so I have always wondered why someone would do it. Does it give you any xp?

November 13, 2002 03:53 pm ET (#46)
Meral
Loyal Fan

33 posts
09-11-02

just get group of like 20 people with 29 pk count line 20 newbies up in line front of pks. Then on count execute group hunt anyone lol?

November 13, 2002 03:57 pm ET (#47)
AsianKing
Loyal Fan

65 posts
10-25-02

#46 - pking give u xp except lv 1-10.

Does this LoA get wiped like test or it just another version of lineage?

November 13, 2002 05:01 pm ET (#48)
SkyLin
Loyal Fan

82 posts
04-20-02

LoA gets wiped in the beginning of Dec i believe and u just have to be alive for 30 seconds u dont restart over so once u telel there u stay alive for 5 seconds that 5 seconds off ur time but sometimes it doesnt even last 1 second when u restart so 1minute there is around 1 hour here .

November 13, 2002 05:16 pm ET (#51)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

exiled (#36)
#1 and #2: that happen all the time on dep..that's how pvp works..and loa is pvp. if u dont like that thing happening to you, either get more inside siege area or just avoid those possibilities of ur target running out of siege zone and die
i think the pk count goes down 1 when the server goes for a reset...that used to be the case, not sure about now, but i think they might consider implementing it later in loa if more ppl like pk-ing, right now they are tweating the server, fixing bugs, and getting some feedbacks about the changes right now to make more changes later on in the future. so if u dont like something in loa go to the OFFICIAL board and talk/discuss/complain/whine (hmm...not that much difference to nc i think) about it

asianking (#48)
it's another version...
currently on beta
wipe after beta which is scheduled in early dec
then start commercial like dep and ken, no wipe afterwards

November 13, 2002 05:30 pm ET (#52)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

I would still stick with our normal servers
though I do like their ideas in being different from korean servers
good for NC in north america in taking a step on their own

if it actually did come to live servers
imagine the ppl with 500+ pk count
(500-29)x30=14130 seconds in hell meaning 235.5 minutes meaning 3.925 hrs....
Hell will be your second home......hehe

November 13, 2002 06:22 pm ET (#53)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

hell probably is one of the reason all those patches in loa is not put into live servers

November 13, 2002 06:49 pm ET (#54)
Exiled
Loyal Fan

12 posts
10-12-02

gigi #52

No kidding those things happen all the time on DEP. I seriously have no problems killing people both in, and out of siege zones. Sometimes it sucks when you kill someone from inside the siege zone, who is outside the siege zone, but only when i was hoping to not go chaotic durring that siege.

The fact remains is that this server is like dep for the first 29 kills, then is like a worser ken from that point on.

and NO ther PK count does not go down 1 every server reset. Sharp's got 750+ pks and he holds them very dear to his heart. Would be painfull to see them stripped away by a server reset.

I dont even know why NC would think "oh, hell would be a cool feature." because the pussies who want hell to exist are the same ones who are too pussy to PK in the first place (therefore they would never experience hell). These people should just play on a non PvP server.

For some reason though, NC thinks hell is really nifty; and believes it should exist. As it stands now though, it is unacceptable for those of us who enjoy the full spectrum of lineage experiences. I gave my suggestion, if they dont want to listen to it - then whatever, i wont play LoA. Not too keen on trying to get another +9 weapon from scratch anyways.

November 13, 2002 07:11 pm ET (#55)
Jasuda
Loyal Fan

26 posts
03-13-02

Hmm You PK and go to Hell. Are you chaotic with 30 kills? If so do the new rules on chaotics dying and items disappearing apply on this server? Hmmmmm

Everyone may want to got to HELL thinking it will be fun. Interesting how games can relfect real life so well, isn't it?

But instead they may die, lose items, lose experience, and never be able to PK again w/o going there. Then there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth, I think! LOL

November 13, 2002 07:48 pm ET (#56)
Longhorn
Loyal Fan

19 posts
06-06-02

Hell is insane : )

It really does suck.

Three - four Drakes everytime I restart. LvL 5 Knight. I like the fact it is a pain in the arse to get out. It is hell after all. I have resterted about 30 times and only used up 3 of the 30 seconds I am sentenced to.

0.0

November 13, 2002 08:07 pm ET (#57)
M3GzX
Loyal Fan

19 posts
10-01-02

I havent heard the million dollar question in regards to this server YET..Is LOA server the start of a series of servers that will pull away from the korean version of lineage? And if so..Does this mean Lineage forever will be coming soon?

November 13, 2002 08:11 pm ET (#58)
Tweak
Loyal Fan

456 posts
10-21-01

But the biggest mistake:

A lvl 20 is thiefing all ur monster now u cant kill him because that will be a +1 pk count!!!!!!!!! that suck !!!!

November 13, 2002 08:12 pm ET (#59)
Dust
Loyal Fan

150 posts
01-29-02

Hell is gonna be amazing :D. But the only bad thing is that you don't get any drops. I really think they should fix that.
Seriously it's hard to survive in Hell, so you might as well just let them get drops.

November 13, 2002 08:18 pm ET (#60)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

exiled (#55)
several pks in dep mention that their pk count drop if they dont pk a while...
meaning it does go down.. - -:..

i pk-ed twice, not sure why..only got pkcount 1, have that stay at 1 til server reset, and it's back to 0

the reason sharp still got that pk count is he pk at least once per server reset(1week?)..which isn't really hard for him i think..

if in hell u can get uber drops, that wont be "hell" now would it? o.o

*this msg has been edited for the 5th time already - -;*

November 13, 2002 08:39 pm ET (#61)
Smokie
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139 posts
02-26-02

lol 3 drakes !!! lol yea righttttttttt anyone gonna survive that... lol this is tough, gotta give NC this one !!! nice one !!!!!!!!

November 13, 2002 08:41 pm ET (#62)
Dust
Loyal Fan

150 posts
01-29-02

Just give them the drops for god sake!!!!

November 13, 2002 08:59 pm ET (#63)
PeNTeL
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299 posts
12-11-01

lineage compendium...posting.....pics with light hack...hackers!

ban ban ban ban^^

November 13, 2002 09:22 pm ET (#64)
Smelly Fungus
Loyal Fan

16 posts
11-02-02

thats a good punishment for all those **** headed pkers. FEAR US LAWFUL PEOPLE YOU SCUMS

November 13, 2002 09:25 pm ET (#65)
mmorpg
Loyal Fan

63 posts
09-18-02

hmm ima go pk some ppl hehehe hell sounds like a fun place to visit

November 13, 2002 09:29 pm ET (#66)
Doomscythe
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1155 posts
03-21-02

o.o

November 13, 2002 09:31 pm ET (#67)
McLanseeI
Loyal Fan

1 posts
10-19-02

Hey guess what! you guys are forgetting...

if global chat lvl is 90 then it must be pretty ez to lvl well above 50 unless it is a glitch I think if u are a "high level" player in LOA you will be in 90-100's drakes and such will not be as bif of a deal as they once were :P

November 13, 2002 09:40 pm ET (#68)
Tweak
Loyal Fan

456 posts
10-21-01

update: We have an untested theory (sparked by Revised on LoA server) that if you die and lose experience, your PK count will go down by one. In our tests, we were too low a level (under 10) to lose experience, so death did not impact our PK count.



like on dep =) i iwll pk with dobs cuz u dont get pk count with dobs... 2 lbvl 48 hasted dobs with a +11tsurigi with a knight named exekiel hurt

November 13, 2002 09:44 pm ET (#69)
Teapot
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-12-02

Lol i was just thinking of somethink very stupid lol...
If there was hell with drakes and bosses... does that mean theres a heaven where you can free run and unlimited items on the ground LOL!! to get to heaven be 32767 lawful for 1 whole year LOL thats pretty hard...

November 13, 2002 09:58 pm ET (#70)
Cowboy
Loyal Fan

74 posts
10-02-01

the lev 90 to chat just means they dont want anyone to chat during beta -.-
mel said it

November 13, 2002 09:59 pm ET (#71)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

...hmm...
i dont think that's hard for all most of the ken ppl o.o
dep is another story =)

loa...it just started

HEAVEN..where u get all morphs avalible to u (all monsters, gm, npc o.o)
HELL...let u stuck in frog morph +.+..

November 13, 2002 10:13 pm ET (#72)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

There should be a heaven
have a pk kill count....
kill 30 pkers, go directly to heaven and an npc up there will bless all your items....hehe

wow....
just noticed on my address line bar on internet explorer....
LC has their own icon....LC in green....
cool amer.....hehe

November 13, 2002 10:36 pm ET (#73)
Wilhelm
Loyal Fan

88 posts
07-02-02

The theory that your PK count goes down by 1 whenever you die and lose exp would imply that everytime a PKer died he would get another free shot to pk someone without going to Hell. Since Hell will likely result in multiple deaths, a PKer could just have his buddy kill him once to drop to 29 before going out to PK someone. This would cost less exp. If the death penalty has been lowered to 5-6%, as some have said, then this isn't that bad a penalty compared with going to Hell.

November 13, 2002 11:26 pm ET (#74)
GarbageMan
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46 posts
06-11-02

LOL dying just to lower your count by 1 isn't even a real option. When you get to lvl 45+, there's no way anyone is going to waste 13% or even 5% just to kill someone. 5-13% is a like 2 hours of constant playing. If you do that just to try and kill someone that pissed you off, then your just doing the griefer's work for him.

November 14, 2002 01:00 am ET (#75)
TeronElf
Loyal Fan

185 posts
09-21-02

p.p

November 14, 2002 01:47 am ET (#76)
Meral
Loyal Fan

33 posts
09-11-02

only getting killed by gaurds lowers your pk count if im still correct.

November 14, 2002 01:47 am ET (#77)
Meral
Loyal Fan

33 posts
09-11-02

op so sorry :)

November 14, 2002 01:48 am ET (#78)
Meral
Loyal Fan

33 posts
09-11-02

I was killing 100 players a day, on test sorta bad you kill so many you get so little most of time anyways. Not to mention if you lag die and random tp near gaurds isnt that enough??

November 14, 2002 01:59 am ET (#79)
Tweak
Loyal Fan

456 posts
10-21-01

me iam rdy to waste lot 5% when iam higher lvl than 52 =) cuz i dont think i iwll try go mroe than 52

November 14, 2002 02:25 am ET (#80)
GarbageMan
Loyal Fan

46 posts
06-11-02

lol, first of all your probably not going to get up to lvl 52. And 2nd 5% is about 10 hours of consistent mop hunting at lvl 52. Thats like working at a full time job just to get 1 kill per day.

November 14, 2002 11:37 am ET (#81)
Killazerg
Loyal Fan

101 posts
02-05-02

I think hell is a good idea but at least let the boss drop items, they kill to get items, and if they die they might drop items, so let bosses drop, they want reward for pking, they dont do it for fun(or do they?). Dont NERF pk fun and purpse!

November 14, 2002 11:35 pm ET (#82)
DIVERSAL
Loyal Fan

138 posts
10-06-02

GASP!! IT SOUNDS LIKE DETENTION!! GAAAHHHHH

November 15, 2002 07:33 pm ET (#83)
Pesh
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-16-02

"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; AND THEY SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER." Revelations 20:10

muhahaha

SIN well DIE free

November 15, 2002 09:32 pm ET (#84)
mmorpg
Loyal Fan

63 posts
09-18-02

lol some advice for people dont even bother getting a newb char into hell unless u plan on deleting them..... it is all but immposible to get out on newb because as soon as u restart ur dead again o.o

November 16, 2002 06:35 am ET (#85)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

not impossible
if u're lucky and restart in an area where there is no mop
all good
of course
only IF u're lucky lol

they should create special boss in hell
SATAN!
he summons all fv mops including demon and valakas
a real hell hehe

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