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November 29, 2002 01:10 am ET - research by Protagonist, MeRcEnARiE, Wish
Forgotten Island - new items
Our Test Server brothers and sisters have been sending in screenshots for us to see. To bring everyone up to speed, Forgotten Island introduces five new armors, three new weapons and two new rings. I'll try to keep all the drops I hear about on this post while Forgotten Island remains on test server.

Armor

Old Helm of Wind: (-1 AC, gives Haste for 1/2 MP, all classes, weight 50, must be 30+) Screenshot by Protagonist.

Helm of Wind: (-2 AC, gives Greater Haste for 1/2 MP, mage only, weight 50, must be 45+) dropped by FI Dark Elf, FI Drake.

Sealed Forgotten Plate Mail: (-1 AC, weight 300, knight only, must be 45+ -- when unsealed AC -16, weight 280) dropped by FI King Bugbear and FI Ettin. Unsealed screenshot by CRY. Rumored: FI Drake, FI Minotaur.

Sealed Forgotten Scale Mail: (-1 AC, weight 250, prince only, must be 45+ -- when unsealed -14 AC, weight 270) RoxyRed got one from FI King Bugbear. Also dropped by FI Minotaur.

Sealed Forgotten Leather Armor: (-1 AC, weight 200, elf only, must be 45+) Dropped by FI Dark Elf, FI Lycanthrope. Screenshot by Eleven -- looks like Orcish Ring Mail when sealed. Rumored: FI Arachnevil Elder.

Sealed Forgotten Robe: (-1 AC, weight 50, mage only, must be 45+ -- when unsealed -12 AC, weight 30) Dropped by FI Lizardman. Screenshot by Eleven -- looks like Leather Armor when sealed.

Underwater Boots (-2 AC, weight 15, all classes, lets you breath underwater) Dropped by FI Alligator (screenshot by AnGeLofHoPe). Rumored: FI Ramia.

Belts

Belt of Troll: (weight 50, knight/prince/elf only) Eleven showed me this belt which reduced his weight from 58% to 48%. Protagonist got it from a Forgotten Island Troll.

Rings

Ring of Immunity to Magic: (+10% MR, weight 3, all classes) Protagonist sent in this screenshot of the new Ring of Immunity to Magic, +10% MR ring. MeRcEnARiE says he got one from the Forgotten Island Bugbear. Rumored: FI Ettin.

Ring of Magic Resistance: (+5% MR, weight 3, all classes) This is LadyLover's +5% MR ring. MeRcEnARiE, Protagonist and MonkeyBone got theirs from FI Dark Elf, FI Ettin and FI King Bugbear, respectively. Rumored: FI Minotaur.

Weapons

Sealed Forgotten Sword: (3/2, Prince/Knight/Elf only, +5 to hit, weight 40, must be 45+ -- when unsealed 35/20) no info yet. Rumored: FI Drake.

Sealed Forgotten Great Sword: (2/3, Prince/Knight only, two-handed, +3 to hit, weight 80, must be 45+ -- when unsealed 20/35) dropped by Forgotten Island Cyclops. (Thanks Wish) looks like scimitar when sealed.

Sealed Forgotten Bowgun: (1/1, Elf only, weight 50, must be 45+ -- when unsealed 3/3, +5 to hit, +2 damage, weight 30) FreeLance got one from the FI Drake. Also dropped by FI Minotaur.

Other

Ancient Scroll: you need to give this to the Detector NPC in the Ivory Tower to unseal the sealed items - no info yet. Rumored drop: FI Minotaur, FI Drake.

Two more pieces of info (looking through the LC archives):

  1. New monster is Minotaur: level 41, 430 HP, 30 MP, tamable.
  2. Here is a location for some maps and a brief overview: Map and summary

If you have any information on drops or screenshots that I haven't posted yet, please send them in. ^^

November 29, 2002 01:11 am ET (#1)
EcKs
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154 posts
04-17-02

O.o these rings r too common, on test server hehe

November 29, 2002 01:15 am ET (#2)
KnightSpirit
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137 posts
04-27-02

ROI~!
not so good =[

November 29, 2002 01:19 am ET (#3)
flip
Loyal Fan

118 posts
10-16-01

i hope the new weapons/armors are better then this ring

November 29, 2002 01:20 am ET (#4)
Tweak
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456 posts
10-21-01

its a good ring i think

November 29, 2002 01:25 am ET (#5)
MISFIT
Loyal Fan

72 posts
05-05-02

it doesnt make u immune really at all ^_^ i saw someone selling the scroll...they cold have beeb bsing tho

November 29, 2002 01:32 am ET (#6)
ailsa
Loyal Fan

118 posts
06-30-02

im famous!!! *im protagonist^^*

November 29, 2002 02:05 am ET (#7)
MeRcEnARiE
Loyal Fan

3 posts
11-28-02

wha~~!!! NICE NICE hehe I was the first to get both the rings!!!! mUHAHAHA first to get the Plate Mail and the RObe!!!! muahhaha thx Protagonist for sendin in the SS. O yea.. its not eternalkilla amer~ thats juss my email name~!! It's MeRcEnARiE~!!! hehe i got hacked!!!! my account by AUGI!! watchout for him!!!!

November 29, 2002 02:07 am ET (#8)
WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan

92 posts
01-28-02

I wonder if the ancient armor is as good as the one on FI, probably not though

November 29, 2002 02:09 am ET (#9)
MeRcEnARiE
Loyal Fan

3 posts
11-28-02

the ancient armor is the one on FI! Its sealed but if you unseal it becomes -16ac. And that is only the base~!!WHOA. I sell for 100m wis me~!

November 29, 2002 02:12 am ET (#10)
natlswim
Loyal Fan

148 posts
04-10-02

FI is like a dream,
all I have to do is turn off global, and I'm surrounded by 45+ players.
can't wait to get away from the newbies :)

OLD helm of wind, maybe there is a Helm of Wind with better ac

November 29, 2002 02:15 am ET (#11)
wingzerohero
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-06-02

merc
ancient armor is 16 ac base.
but it stays that, cant enchant it with zels...
but still 16 ac is great knight armor... +7dsm...is the same but light but probably harder to make a +7 dsm then find ancient armor...

November 29, 2002 02:24 am ET (#12)
EcKs
Loyal Fan

154 posts
04-17-02

bring on the unseal scrolls!!

November 29, 2002 02:43 am ET (#13)
KrOnIcS
Loyal Fan

20 posts
10-24-02

when is it coming to dep =)i hope my +9tsu do good there
roi to magic is good =)

November 29, 2002 03:46 am ET (#14)
trunkz
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8 posts
11-03-02

NEED MORE SCROLLS!

November 29, 2002 03:50 am ET (#15)
IntothePain
Loyal Fan

163 posts
11-01-02

there should be a ring of not-be-cancelled muahahha, i bet it would be worth more than rotc.

November 29, 2002 04:24 am ET (#16)
Cody
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510 posts
09-10-02

+10 Katana works nice there.

November 29, 2002 05:16 am ET (#17)
sikrob
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98 posts
04-03-02

for the test players...any noticeable bugs on FI? think it will go live next week?

November 29, 2002 05:39 am ET (#18)
Onlyone
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247 posts
02-07-02

sweet

November 29, 2002 06:42 am ET (#19)
L
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481 posts
01-16-02

FI on life server
mm.... wonder how many players will trap there o.o;

November 29, 2002 07:39 am ET (#20)
ZFIGHTERZ
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23 posts
10-06-02

FI on live server wonder how many ppl will go back rob

November 29, 2002 07:47 am ET (#21)
TeronElf
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185 posts
09-21-02

tons of unseal scrolls already. j/king but who knows? every hunt someone always get something... I heard ToT saying he sells ancient sword... he lies I think ^_^

November 29, 2002 08:59 am ET (#22)
brandon
Loyal Fan

86 posts
03-31-02

i heard some rumor that someone got dk gloves on FI, i dont believe it but does anyone else know if it could be true?

November 29, 2002 09:03 am ET (#23)
Blanka
Loyal Fan

26 posts
09-18-02

Is the % any good?

November 29, 2002 09:16 am ET (#24)
Killazerg
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101 posts
02-05-02

Woot cant wait to try it BRING ON THE NEW ITEMS!!!!!!!!!

November 29, 2002 10:24 am ET (#25)
Alexei
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-11-02

I got 3%+ with a lvl 46 knight hunting with one other pledge member in an hour so exp is not too bad...
Didnt get any good drops tho...
Drakes are everywhere :)

November 29, 2002 11:00 am ET (#26)
AsianKing
Loyal Fan

65 posts
10-25-02

imagine there pker on that FI, be funny seeing pker run like hell.
5 pker vs 10-20 lawful, how can we lose to a pker unless they got more ppl than us. Or war on FI :]

November 29, 2002 11:10 am ET (#27)
WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan

92 posts
01-28-02

#10 there was a news post a while ago and it had some identified pictures, and there was an Old helm of Wind and Helm of Wind, so there probably is a Helm of Wind somewhere, waiting to be found ^^

November 29, 2002 11:11 am ET (#28)
WaRLoRD
Loyal Fan

92 posts
01-28-02

And ya know what else is funny? When a thing can be worn by all classes they usually leave that section blank, but with the old helm of wind its [Prince/Princess][Knight][Elf][Wizard] but it should be kept blank :)

November 29, 2002 11:32 am ET (#29)
KnightSpirit
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-27-02

oo.. OLD helm of wind give haste spell... so what about the normal helm of wind o.O

November 29, 2002 12:15 pm ET (#30)
Solnac
Loyal Fan

113 posts
10-25-01

MeRcEnARiE, Augi would never hack!! I cannot believe that. He quit lineage a few months ago, it must be some persno using his old name on test... >_<

November 29, 2002 12:46 pm ET (#31)
ailsa
Loyal Fan

118 posts
06-30-02

normall helm of wind lets u cast all spells at half the mana prise so say summonn is 100mana with helm on it is 50mana somebody i know had a unsealing scroll i saw it
and wish got a sealed ancient great sword it shud be up on lc soon

November 29, 2002 01:46 pm ET (#32)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

helm of wind allows u to cast greater haste spell...and that's all it does
45+ to use i think

November 29, 2002 01:48 pm ET (#33)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

hmmm, the koreans have lots they keep it a secret

November 29, 2002 02:08 pm ET (#34)
Taera
LC Reporter

333 posts
01-30-02

I'm betting that the helm of wind is just 2 ac instead of 1 ;)

November 29, 2002 02:20 pm ET (#35)
MeRcEnARiE
Loyal Fan

3 posts
11-28-02

solnar...if you dont kno plz dont say...augi did hack me...and now i gotta start all over...ToT does not lie...but it is true that koreans do hide...hehe
Augi did not quit a few months ago..i dont kno wut you are talkin about...ive been talkin to him for a while, and i trusted him. owel stuff happens. The helm of wind is 2ac. I also heard FI goin to live servers in 2 weeks. Not confirmed tho.

November 29, 2002 02:36 pm ET (#36)
ikaris
Loyal Fan

37 posts
11-01-02

MonkeyBones just told me he got a Helm of Wind
2ac, 1/2 mana cost for all spells, only mage can wear.
Hmm I should ask him to show it to me.

November 29, 2002 02:40 pm ET (#37)
Luckie
Loyal Fan

151 posts
03-19-02

Helm Of Wind
2ac
Greater Haste

no ancient items can be enchanted except for the ancient crossbow

November 29, 2002 03:00 pm ET (#38)
aupairKing
Loyal Fan

320 posts
03-11-02

Back to Test Server!!!!!

November 29, 2002 03:05 pm ET (#39)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

lol -.- ive seen someone with an armor wich is only for prince/princess thats sealed ..... and he had the sealed pm

November 29, 2002 03:05 pm ET (#40)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

Ikaris ..... tell him to show you that will be cool if true

November 29, 2002 03:18 pm ET (#41)
MegaDragon
Loyal Fan

44 posts
06-29-02

w000000t !! awesome!!!!

November 29, 2002 03:23 pm ET (#42)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

hmmm i would rather have the sword to able to be +ed and you can just take the extra hits bonus of -.- , i would rather have a +6 wep than +0 t.t

November 29, 2002 03:50 pm ET (#43)
Ramza
Loyal Fan

722 posts
01-11-02

FI sounds like alot of fun cant wait tll it goes to live servers :D

November 29, 2002 04:18 pm ET (#44)
natlswim
Loyal Fan

148 posts
04-10-02

will loa have FI too?
would like to see who gets to go to FI first

November 29, 2002 04:21 pm ET (#45)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

lol natlswim prolly me -.- but.............. i wont go unless two of us

November 29, 2002 05:19 pm ET (#46)
aupairKing
Loyal Fan

320 posts
03-11-02

That Great Sword is un-DAIable right?

Still at 20/35 and +5 to hit, thats pretty good, I mean Dragon Slayer is only 18/25 right? and DS is not even in the game, I think.

Tsurugi is 16/10 and at +9 you get 25/19!

This will definely be the BOSS weapon of choice I think

November 29, 2002 06:15 pm ET (#47)
FrozenYak
Loyal Fan

125 posts
09-30-02

im just glad the forgotten sword is for elves too, not just loadingup the knights

November 29, 2002 06:33 pm ET (#48)
WeaponX
Loyal Fan

15 posts
06-03-02

Yay! for now it seems like there's only 1 item for mage!! whoppie!

November 29, 2002 06:41 pm ET (#49)
DMX1467
Loyal Fan

39 posts
07-04-02

whens this coming to live servers T_T~~

November 29, 2002 06:58 pm ET (#50)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

wow cry first person then ;)

November 29, 2002 07:44 pm ET (#51)
natlswim
Loyal Fan

148 posts
04-10-02

haha onlyone, kind of ironic your name is Onlyone and you won't go alone :P

November 29, 2002 08:11 pm ET (#52)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

LOL natlswim -.- im scarrrrrrreeeeed i mite dieeeee but .... i wana make it onlyhundred you see :) lol!

November 29, 2002 08:34 pm ET (#53)
iNTOtHEnIGHT
Loyal Fan

10 posts
11-22-02

hmmm i just read that no teleporting on the island oO, lotta pking gunan be going on there me thinks ><, i better invest in a coi ^^

November 29, 2002 08:47 pm ET (#54)
GovernMent
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-30-02

u cant pk on it O.o

November 29, 2002 08:52 pm ET (#55)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

i want more stuff ^^

November 29, 2002 09:14 pm ET (#56)
Blahk
Loyal Fan

234 posts
02-02-02

for that sword thats 35/20.......i'd rather use a +7~9 sword.. the 35/20 sword has a chance of doing 1 dmg =O. With a +7sword(say its a katana) you do 7 dmg just from the enchants alone, then 1-12..im guessing the 35/20 will be a luck sword-meaning its possible to win a duel by far with it, and next duel you could being dealing like no dmg at all!!but some of the stuff looks cool for helping mages

November 29, 2002 09:50 pm ET (#57)
ikaris
Loyal Fan

37 posts
11-01-02

Here's the full Info on FI for people who want to know
*Boat leaves Heine dock at 6, 10, 14, 18 game time
*lvl 45+ only
*Combat Zone
*No random tele
*No btele
*No escape
*Mops are 10-20 lvls higher than normal (I think)
*All mops are hasted, dont try to run
*When you die,restart,dc, you end up at the spot you start out
*Tele person shows up once in a while to tele u back to mainland
*Shop shows up once in a while: 400 per orange, 1k per clear...
*To the farthest west part of the FI, there's a shop/tele person
who's there all the time
*Mops only drop scrolls,pots,items
*Mops do not drop adenas

Is there anything else I am missing? Please fill me in.
Happy dying everyone ^.~ FI is a death trap

November 29, 2002 10:20 pm ET (#58)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

hunt with party....make it in boat?

November 29, 2002 10:30 pm ET (#59)
TheStoned0ne
Loyal Fan

35 posts
03-31-02

sword would be even better if they made it 27/12 with a +8 dmg bonus so u have at least some sure dmg but its a pretty cool weapon anyway ;)

November 30, 2002 12:39 am ET (#60)
kingslei
Loyal Fan

146 posts
01-04-02

a few suggestion:
only hunt in party or else just pump 100clear in 5min..........
even for lvl 52player i would still sugeest you do that.
always hunt wiht friends no matter what wiat for the next perosn:D
ac must be reallyreally good
mage, elves, pricne can't run from mops..........
low in pot?? get a group and wait for lucky i did that once....
dun forget to be nice in FI, its combat zone........ becareful
Mages: PLease stick with a good good party... even wiht your summon you will pump pot faster then the speed of lite........
Elves stick with mages and knight stay in water align
PRince: i wouldn't suggest you hunt there since it hella hard.......
Money goes away in a snap..... i used u 300k on pot w/o something good to come back.

November 30, 2002 01:18 am ET (#61)
Glorfindel
Loyal Fan

72 posts
11-24-02

Neffer got dk gloves...but I'll let him tell you guys about it

November 30, 2002 06:21 am ET (#62)
WizSnake
Loyal Fan

260 posts
06-21-02

kingslei u make it sound impossible -.- i watched my friend survive there with +4 ac and a dwarf sword...he was able to kill alligator...i think they have same hp but just hit hella harder. there are many mops and if a mop pumps a green you better be able to kill it because u aint running. everything there is hasted without the greens so wiht green their like brave haste knight but faster with some morphs...i was there with green/brave/dwarfmorph a kingbb used a green and was almost as fast as me...FAST! lol

November 30, 2002 06:31 am ET (#63)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

wow glor what did he get it off ?

November 30, 2002 07:33 am ET (#64)
flip
Loyal Fan

118 posts
10-16-01

if its a combat zone do you lose exp?

November 30, 2002 08:13 am ET (#65)
brandon
Loyal Fan

86 posts
03-31-02

if a person kills you in combat zone, u dont lose exp or drop item.
but if a monster kills you anywhere (safety,combat, or normal) u lose exp and can drop items.

and question : whats ac on unsealed forgotten leather armor? i would guess -13 since that fits between -12 and -14?

November 30, 2002 08:49 am ET (#66)
theclanx
Loyal Fan

111 posts
07-09-02

Isnt that xbow one handed?

November 30, 2002 09:01 am ET (#67)
daojohn
Loyal Fan

1 posts
10-22-02

#65 i think it is not point to use it if -13ac
i will just use a +8ecm which weight only 150 instead of it

November 30, 2002 09:33 am ET (#68)
CuteLady
Loyal Fan

64 posts
10-12-02

Brandon I'm guessing 14 b/c that's how the prince's scale mail is. They wouldnt go making it the same as +6 epm or one more ac.

November 30, 2002 10:40 am ET (#69)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

im guessing -14 .... and with extra stats ... :)

November 30, 2002 11:08 am ET (#70)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

hehe i try not to hunt drake and other high mops they drop less good
me and protagonist got some good stuff old helm of wind,helm of wind, sealed mage armor,sealed elf armor,2 rings 10 and 5 but its test....

November 30, 2002 11:25 am ET (#71)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

eleven ever killed a drake?

November 30, 2002 11:34 am ET (#72)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

15 times? you see lots of drake all over the island

November 30, 2002 11:35 am ET (#73)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

1 thing i wanna know does FI basi drop the scroll to unseal???

November 30, 2002 01:28 pm ET (#74)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

t.t i wouldnt want to try kill a basil would you

November 30, 2002 02:19 pm ET (#75)
eleven
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21 posts
10-26-02

already killed 2

November 30, 2002 02:20 pm ET (#76)
eleven
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21 posts
10-26-02

already killed 2....... with party O.o

November 30, 2002 02:20 pm ET (#77)
eleven
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21 posts
10-26-02

November 30, 2002 03:15 pm ET (#78)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

drop?

November 30, 2002 03:16 pm ET (#79)
Samwise
Loyal Fan

57 posts
05-07-02

Let me set something straight first...Augi on test server and Augi on live server were different ppl. I think the augi on live server quit, and the augi on test server is Artifact from live server. I wouldnt put it past Art but i doubt he woul do it.

November 30, 2002 03:46 pm ET (#80)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

some pots

November 30, 2002 03:55 pm ET (#81)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

funny... but i think i know 8 drake spawns not all in drake zone
there are some drake spawns near the npc chiki (still trying to find him/her)

November 30, 2002 04:14 pm ET (#82)
SpysLikeUs
Loyal Fan

89 posts
03-04-02

what of COI on FI ? does COI work on FI ?

Do all MOP on FI see you while COI'ed ?

Can someone on Test give us first hand
information please; not what you think
or what you heard. I know COI's are
rare on Test, so it may take a while
to get a straight answer...

November 30, 2002 04:59 pm ET (#83)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

Based on the reports from the Korean Test server, the weaker monsters, located on the southern half of the island, cannot see through COI, but the others can.

November 30, 2002 05:29 pm ET (#84)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

hope we get FI on live servers soon

got so much info on it already hehe

November 30, 2002 07:42 pm ET (#85)
sikrob
Loyal Fan

98 posts
04-03-02

i heard there are only like 2 mops that cant see coi. coi is pretty useless there.

November 30, 2002 09:05 pm ET (#86)
Vail
Loyal Fan

260 posts
02-27-02

I don't like how lots of the items don't show their special abilities when they are identified. The Underwater Boots for example. You'd think that it would say "Allows user to breathe underwater" or something uner the useable Classes.

November 30, 2002 09:07 pm ET (#87)
Onlyone
Loyal Fan

247 posts
02-07-02

Lol vail doesnt the name like "give it away" ????

November 30, 2002 09:25 pm ET (#88)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

hmmm yea just like with helm of wind
but it should say 50%less mana to all spells and g-haste spell O.o

November 30, 2002 09:27 pm ET (#89)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

ooohh and amer there is someone with the prince armor(sealed) think it was pirate

November 30, 2002 10:20 pm ET (#90)
GovernMent
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-30-02

ok once again ITS COMBAT ZONE you cannot PK

November 30, 2002 10:51 pm ET (#91)
ex
Loyal Fan

25 posts
11-09-02

I wouldnt want to trade my homr for a wind helm...
I wouldnt want to trade a +5dsm for an ancient mage cloth coz it simply gives you more ac + element resist.

So what goodies are left for mage?...not much really

Now a knight for example gets a better sword, better armor and last but not least +20%MR(2 mp rings) to be immune to mages!...dont you want to be a knight!

knights can now, believe it or not, get 75+ MR!, which makes them immune to almost any spell.

whats next? MR gloves -4ac +20mr can only be worn by knight?

its also funny how elves can get 120%MR now, does that still make sense?

November 30, 2002 11:00 pm ET (#92)
amer
LC Admin

864 posts
07-11-01

ex: +5 DSM is same AC as +0 Ancient Robe. +5 DSM gives no elemental resistance. Ancient Robe is much lighter than +5 DSM. I would pick +0 Ancient Robe.

GovernMent: You can PK in Combat Zone, it's just you don't get anything out of it.

November 30, 2002 11:12 pm ET (#93)
ikaris
Loyal Fan

37 posts
11-01-02

Ya it does seem like every new additions to Lineage
help knights the most.
So I started a knight, and I was right, I can play
a knight blind folded. ITS JUST THAT EASY!!!
With mage however, you have to spend 10 times as much
pots, money, hunting time to be as strong as a knight.

November 30, 2002 11:22 pm ET (#94)
ex
Loyal Fan

25 posts
11-09-02

+5dsm is -14ac, robe -12ac :p
We asked NC why dsm shows no elemental MR and they said its hidden...
I dont believe it much but thats what they said.

Ok I might chose for the robe but still thats nothing compared to what some other classes get.

What bothers me most actually is the MR, with 75% mr you can resist every curse spell, maybe wb will still come thru but who will use that anyway, it gives you -2k lawfull failed or not.

btw..is there still a lvl40 sp cap on korea live servers?

December 01, 2002 12:17 am ET (#95)
DumbPig
Loyal Fan

54 posts
02-28-02

is there different unseal scroll or is there only one and it works on everything?

December 01, 2002 12:24 am ET (#96)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

+5dsm is -14ac, robe -12ac :p

FALSE!! +5dsm is -14ac, +4 robe is -16ac.. use bzel get +5 robe easy. -17ac!! Nothing will beat that.

Question, how much will Ancient Scroll be worth? Like, millions of adena each, I bet!!

December 01, 2002 12:42 am ET (#97)
GovernMent
Loyal Fan

137 posts
04-30-02

if u dont get a count i dont consider it pk :)

December 01, 2002 12:52 am ET (#98)
Legolas4
Loyal Fan

127 posts
05-31-02

Quickshadow, you can't zel or dai antient weapons or armor (except antient x-bow). So +5 DSM is better ac, but weighs more than +0 Antient Robe.

December 01, 2002 12:55 am ET (#99)
Tunguska
Loyal Fan

5 posts
02-12-02

100th msg for the first time --;;
anyway it looks very sweet.

December 01, 2002 01:12 am ET (#100)
FrozenYak
Loyal Fan

125 posts
09-30-02

it really doesnt make sense, they constantly give knights more stuff for magic resistance, but they dont give mages more stuff for better overall ac so they can take the hits better

December 01, 2002 01:22 am ET (#101)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

i would trade homr for wind helm!!!! 50% less mana for all spells?!?!+g-haste spell

December 01, 2002 01:54 am ET (#102)
GarbageMan
Loyal Fan

46 posts
06-11-02

Elven, where does it say 1/2 MP for ALL SPELLS? It doesn't.

December 01, 2002 01:59 am ET (#103)
Raistleen
Loyal Fan

60 posts
05-16-02

Have you noticed that being a combat zone, you get better results if, while sorrounded by mops and going to die, you ask some elf/mage to kill you from afar (no exp loss, no item loss, no chao/pink for killer) than being actually killed by the mops?

It should make pks very popular for players over FI XDDDD

I can imagine the thought while running away from a group of mops: "please please, god, make a pk come around and kill me now, i just haven't gotten to that 13% over my new level....."

heheheh, nice way of promoting teamplay:
knight: ok, i kill mops, you kill wounded teammates
mage: but, i don't wanna do it, can't stand the look in their eyes!!
knight: Looks like we have an individualist here...

hehehehhehehe love this game.... :)

December 01, 2002 03:18 am ET (#104)
Kuroko
Loyal Fan

109 posts
03-31-02

elves dont have 120% mr, I am a wis elf with 100% mr with no mr items.

if I put a mr item on I am still at 100% mr.

December 01, 2002 03:24 am ET (#105)
BigPope
LC Admin

622 posts
01-18-02

yeah mr maxes out at 100% hehe

December 01, 2002 05:13 am ET (#106)
Felados
Loyal Fan

2 posts
11-04-02

LMFAO@Raist lol, thats funny bro..... People yell, !PLEASE KILL ME HURRY....


i dont like that if u getting hit by more than one mop and in trouble u cant venz. im a dex elf at lvl 47 i only have 406hp (20hp ammy,30hpbelt), so i will have some big trouble there. and is there a kennel or something, i will definately need dogs. you have to bring at least 50k before u go, my dogs are gonna be caring like 100 clears on each one of them.....better stock up on wafers elves

December 01, 2002 05:36 am ET (#107)
bigpeeler
Loyal Fan

129 posts
10-23-02

dat x-bow is nutz!!! not only is it better then i yumi but its 1 handed... wow... sum of those swordz r a lil 2 much tho... i mean wut ever happened 2 good ol fashioned dragon slayer... any1 who had 1 of those would kik so much ass but now they got these new swords out!!! NC as really dun it dis time 0.o

December 01, 2002 05:54 am ET (#108)
BigPope
LC Admin

622 posts
01-18-02

Felados pets and summoned monsters dont follow you their(from what i understand) Its really a good place for group hunting. I myself wouldnt recommend anyone trying to solo. I know on ken Some high 50+ players plan on going with each other not wanting to try and solo the island.

December 01, 2002 06:08 am ET (#109)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

Is the exp for the harder FI mops gonna be better? If this is a 45+ lvl hunting area, it would make sense to do so...

December 01, 2002 06:37 am ET (#110)
Tissot
Loyal Fan

180 posts
06-22-02


         FI WILL BRING BACK THE DOG KILLERS

                   You ask me why, now I tell you

         Dogs is used as backpacks and potionbags

                   Easy kill to earn cash

December 01, 2002 06:55 am ET (#111)
L
Loyal Fan

481 posts
01-16-02

mmmm.............. how can a forgotten "great sword" be worse than a forgotten "sword" -____-;? what is so "great" then o.o;? 2 handed... worse small mop attack..... basicly it sux , don't even worth a to use an unseal scroll -_-;

December 01, 2002 07:30 am ET (#112)
shoyo
Loyal Fan

86 posts
04-25-02

fi can use doggie?

December 01, 2002 08:30 am ET (#113)
brandon
Loyal Fan

86 posts
03-31-02

the XP from FI monsters is nice, but when it takes me 20-30 clears to 1:1 a drake and it drops nothing its disappointing. i wonder, if FI monsters drop nothing at all alot of the time on test, what will they drop on live server?

December 01, 2002 08:49 am ET (#114)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

the ancient great sword would be great for hunting large mops like dragons or ant queen....
the ppl who actually unseal it, would most likely hunt dragons is my guess
but then again, +3 hit bonus, not so great
makes +9 and +10 weapons look better still

and we all know it, on live servers, the drop rate will be much worse
gotta like really lucky in receiving an ancient scroll if it isn't already so rare in test server, like killing millions of drakes and minotaurs and still getting nothing from them....reason u gotta hunt there as a team to be worth while
we all knew this ahead of time
of course ppl will complain
but don't forget about how powerful this equipment is if u r lucky to be able to unseal it

December 01, 2002 09:57 am ET (#115)
Neo
Loyal Fan

219 posts
12-05-01

QuickShadow_
you cant enchant forgotten armor.
if u can , i want to see it.

reported:
http://www.lineagecompendium.com/addcomment.php?newsid=881

so i guess Dragon armor will be still the best ac armor for mage (even it weight a LOT)

Neo

December 01, 2002 11:10 am ET (#116)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

(clicked ok when I shouldnt have) (read full comment below) (amer delete button would be nice)

December 01, 2002 11:12 am ET (#117)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

My wrong Neo and Legolas4. Now I remember you cant... so, basicly, another update with nothing for mages.

Another question, can we take doggies to FI? Cause I just bought a lvl 47 dog and his 400HP could come useful there... but I would hate some stupid knight to come and try to kill it... more so since I cannot escape. Guess while he hits the doggie (and he bites back hasted and HARD cause he does) I'll just slow, paralize him and have fun toying with him...

Remember, paralyze in FI is DEATH, since you cant escape or tele.... so, hunting alone here is dangerous, any decent int mage can para there and kill a lonely knight FAST.

Isnt FI scary? Damn I dont want to go there if it isnt with a bunch of 45+ friends...

December 01, 2002 11:16 am ET (#118)
QuickShadow_
Loyal Fan

173 posts
02-05-02

Neo I see your still on - question, are you still lvling up your character? Tells us how does ettin feel like?

Just think it is AMAZING there is a lvl 52 mage out there (or a couple). It is a nice point to reach for a mage, besides the summons, the DK morph should rule to get MP fast as hell.

Congrats!!

December 01, 2002 11:27 am ET (#119)
Alexei
Loyal Fan

34 posts
09-11-02

I saw a mage with skele guards on FI...
Can you summon once on the island?

December 01, 2002 11:31 am ET (#120)
slayer
Loyal Fan

12 posts
12-12-01

the ancient sword isnt that great as it seems, its pretty good tho. but i dont think its better then +9tsu. the average damage on ancient sword is 10/17.5 and on a +9 tsu its 17/14, but then there's the +5 to hit... but for bosses the ancient sword is great

December 01, 2002 12:40 pm ET (#121)
FrozenYak
Loyal Fan

125 posts
09-30-02

quickshadow u can just edit your message and add to it, theres no reason to have 3 messagesin a row

and for all you ppl who wanna just let others kill you so you dont die to the monster...remember your basically gambling, the monsters are all hasted there so its all gonna be based on whether the monster or person gets the killing hit, you wont have time to run away and let someone kill you

unless of course your just talking about someone wanting u to kill them because they know they cant handle another monster

by the way, where exactly is it that you appear when u die on FI?

December 01, 2002 01:21 pm ET (#122)
ruben
Loyal Fan

355 posts
10-07-01

____________
the average damage on ancient sword is 10/17.5 and on a +9 tsu its 17/14, but then there's the +5 to hit... but for bosses the ancient sword is great
____________

STR helps getting better rolls so a 27 str knight (20 base, pg and str spell) will probably do more dmg with ancient sword than with tsu
+6 tsurugi has +5 hit bonus and any + after 8 will have more hit bonus than the ancient sword

December 01, 2002 01:22 pm ET (#123)
K-ZS-M
Loyal Fan

925 posts
05-04-02

slayer
don't forget hit bonus every +2 enchantments
so +9 tsu has +4 hit bonus
the ancient sword...the damage would probably vary alot

Edit: Oops...I forget....tsu has +2 hit bonus as well
So +9 Tsu has +6 hit bonus in total...
Better in hitting then the ancient sword...

December 01, 2002 01:23 pm ET (#124)
aroseem
Loyal Fan

4 posts
09-24-02

How u get to korean servers and the one that already has FI?????? help~!!!!!

December 01, 2002 02:25 pm ET (#125)
Mune
Loyal Fan

56 posts
10-07-02

Sign up for a Korean account and then right click on your Lineage short cut and where is says US on the target line, type Korea o.-

December 01, 2002 02:46 pm ET (#126)
Neo
Loyal Fan

219 posts
12-05-01

Quickshadow_
yes still lvling (very slowly now) , ettins just sux for the moment.
dk morph is good (not as good as for a knight but still).
tho keep in mind in the time i do 1% a knight do 2% at the same lvl.

Neo

December 01, 2002 03:44 pm ET (#127)
eleven
Loyal Fan

21 posts
10-26-02

you cant go to korean server!!!! bann all usa ip adress only korean ip can join that server!!!

December 01, 2002 04:27 pm ET (#128)
kingslei
Loyal Fan

146 posts
01-04-02

NEo atleast you are earning EXP:P nto dieing and delvl........ us mages just have to live harder and use more money then a knight does...... neo with tour ac and hasting your ettin you can hunt in FI with near the farfar drakezone which you can refresh pot quickly but expsnive.....

December 01, 2002 05:02 pm ET (#129)
chilton
Loyal Fan

28 posts
06-12-02

anyone having connect probs??

December 01, 2002 05:26 pm ET (#130)
MegaDragon
Loyal Fan

44 posts
06-29-02

FI drops are bad for me -.-....or maybe im just unlucky O.o
3x trip to FI = no armor, no rings, no weap...just 30% exp ...
thats 14 braves each trip, 100 clears with 50 oranges and 8 ghastes -.-
doesnt feel like test server drops to me ><

December 01, 2002 05:50 pm ET (#131)
slayer
Loyal Fan

12 posts
12-12-01

yea, i forgot about the hit bonus every other dai... well anyway just proves my point even more, that a +9tsu is better then the new 20/35 sword.

December 01, 2002 08:20 pm ET (#132)
Morticae
LC Reporter

103 posts
09-25-02

A number of these posts seem to be confusing the new swords, or Amer just changed it or something. Anyway, I'll do the math and break it down here.

For small monsters-
+7 Tsu:
16/10 +2 hit
7 + (0-16) damage/hit which averages to 15 damage/hit
base +2 hit +3 hit from enchants = +5 hit

+8 Tsu:
16/10 +2 hit
8 + (0-16) damage/hit which averages to 16 damage/hit
base +2 hit +4 hit from enchants = +6 hit

Ancient Sword:
35/20 +5 hit
0 + (0-35) damage/hit which averages to 17.5 damage/hit
base +5hit

Ancient Great Sword:
20/35 +3 hit
0 + (0-20) damage/hit which averages to 10 damage/hit
base +3hit
Also (for knight): Recieve 4.5-5 damage more/hit (With +7 or +8 ES)


For Large monsters
+7 Tsu:
16/10 +2 hit
7 + (0-10) damage/hit which averages to 12 damage/hit
base +2 hit +3 hit from enchants = +5 hit

+8 Tsu:
16/10 +2 hit
8 + (0-10) damage/hit which averages to 13 damage/hit
base +2 hit +4 hit from enchants = +6 hit

Ancient Sword:
35/20 +5 hit
0 + (0-20) damage/hit which averages to 10 damage/hit
base +5hit

Ancient Great Sword:
20/35 +3 hit
0 + (0-35) damage/hit which averages to 17.5 damage/hit
base +3hit
Also (for knight): Recieve 4.5-5 damage more/hit (With +7 or +8 ES)

+8 Great Axe
10/16
8 + (0-16) damage/hit which averages to 16 damage/hit
+4hit from enchants
Also (for knight): Recieve 4.5-5 damage more/hit (With +7 or +8 ES)

+8 MB
4/5 +10 hit
8 + (0-5) damage/hit which averages to 10.5 damage/hit
+10 base hit + 4hit from enchants +14hit


So as far as I can tell, I believe the new Ancient Sword will be better than a +7tsu. The Ancient Sword will be better than a +8tsu on weaker, small mops and worse on stronger, small mops (given the extra +1 hit)

The Ancient Great Sword will be pretty much all-around gay. The mail breaker may do 7 less damage/hit, but if you are using this sword then you are fighting a boss, end of story. Therefor, with the Ancient Great Sword, you are giving up a whopping +11hit over MB! You also take a good 4.5-5 damage more per hit because you give up (I assume) a +7 or +8 ES. If you factor this in, and assume that you and a boss hit at about the same rate, then the Ancient Great Sword is actually only benefiting you by a margin of 2.5damage at the expense of +11 hit, which will MORE than make up for that margin.

So go for the Ancient Sword. I think its price will be somewhere between a +8 and +9 TSU. It's not as good as a +9 TSU and not NEARLY as good as a +10TSU. Forget the Ancient Great Sword. It will be a nice novelty, but if you have a +8 or more MB then there's NGGDR to use it.

December 01, 2002 10:15 pm ET (#133)
Substance
Loyal Fan

186 posts
09-25-02

hey
u sure those sword cannot be enchanted?
and r u sure those stats r 100% sure?

December 01, 2002 11:42 pm ET (#134)
gigi
Loyal Fan

641 posts
05-01-02

fi = forgotten island = forgotten because it was a death trap = island that u can "hardly" escape

weeeeee cant wait to waste a month worth of xp just to die there 10 times in under em..10minutes

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